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I just want to be able to tell a video service to not recommend stuff I’ve already watched. Disney+ is like “Because you’ve watch show A, you should watch show B. Also, because you’ve watched show B, you should watch show A.”
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Submitted 1 year ago by reddig33@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ryper@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
YouTube is the worst for this. I know a lot of people fall asleep watching YouTube so it makes to think that some stuff that was “watched” wasn’t really watched.
I don’t fall asleep watching YouTube. Unless it’s music, I’m not watching the same thing twice.
squiblet@kbin.social 1 year ago
Facebook did that to me until it was finally what made me give up using the wretched site. I’d do everything I could to signal I wasn’t interested in politics. Block, unfollow, “show me less”, ignore. Then they’d come up with more of the same political content from someone on my friend list I’d never even heard of. Meanwhile it never showed me content from people I actually knew, like an actual friend or colleague could go on a vacation, get married, have a kid, and I’d only know from going to their page, while mean while my feed was endless bullshit political memes.
MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz 1 year ago
I like the Amazon Music strat, recommend songs that are already in my playlist!
thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Can’t dislike songs you already like!
AA5B@lemmy.world 1 year ago
IPhone users who used to like U2 would beg to differ
NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 1 year ago
Spotify came out with an AI DJ and it’s programmatic dog shit.
strawberry@artemis.camp 1 year ago
dunno what ur talking about, spotifys suggestion algorithm is on point
lnsfw3@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Not for me. Last.fm knew my tastes perfectly. Spotify just craps the same dozen artists at me.
DLSchichtl@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Meanwhile, YTM keeps knocking it out of the park on my recommendations. Found so many new artists through the 'rithm.
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’ll give them that, they’re crap about a lot but the recommendations are good. My only complaint is that it can’t figure out playlists from context. I have a playlist of 5 hours of instrumental rock and metal and a little electronica. When it ends, ytm adds on music with vocals.
Good music. I mean, I like it. But I’m trying to work here, I put on my instrumental playlist for a reason.
small44@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because the algorithms are biased. I never had trouble finding new music without them
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Netflix seems pretty good at it but their catalog just doesn’t seem deep enough to prove it out.
thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Except if you accidentally start one movie in a foreign language, that’s all you’ll ever get for a while
corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
this is a decent service for music www.music-map.com
bighatchester@lemmy.world 1 year ago
YouTube music always picks a couple of songs I listen to and then all music I’ve never ever heard of before by random artists that I have also never heard of and it’s never something I want to listen to.
grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s funny, I just realized artifact is installed on my phone (forgot about it) and noticed if I tell it to stop sending me Psychology Today articles (like 20 minute YouTube video that should be 30 seconds, but in article form) I just get more pop psych from another click bait source. Probably the next highest bidder.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
I was happy with Spotify’s until the last couple years.
BURN@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because they’re not just recommendation algorithms
They’re optimized to generate the most revenue, or direct the most clicks to certain things. They take your likes/dislikes into account, but they’re not the only metric, and arguably for the platform are the least important.
reddig33@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sounds like payola.
Zak@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It is like payola. It’s not usually direct payments that would require disclosure though. It’s likely some attempt to calculate what’s most likely to lead to high-value ad clicks.
squiblet@kbin.social 1 year ago
How is it useful for them to play songs that someone is just going to skip and may encourage them to stop using the service though?
BURN@lemmy.world 1 year ago
iirc Apple Music pushes certain “popular” artists. There’s always an agenda, be it getting paid under the table or promoting more lucrative ads. Sometimes they’re A/B testing on users to see if pushing a certain artist or genre results in more or less playtime.
But really it comes down to user choice being the last thing they think of. They think they know best, and think they should dictate everything.
Algorithm design is good enough that it can effectively recommend with extremely good accuracy, but that doesn’t necessarily always work in favor of the companies in charge.
Quatity_Control@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s also a feedback loop. They suggest popular music, which exposes it to more people, which makes it seem more popular, which means it gets suggested more…
kirklennon@kbin.social 1 year ago
Except this obviously doesn’t apply to all of these situations, including OP’s very first example. For what it’s worth, I find Apple Music’s recommendations to be pretty good, but in any event, there is no financial motivation to recommend any particular song over another. The only goal is to make you happy so you keep subscribing.
The simple, non-conspiratorial answer is that machine learning is neither perfect nor psychic.