Submitted 9 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Meta and Salesforce are looking to re-hire some workers they just laid off. It’s putting those people in an awkward spot::Big Tech wants to bring back some of the workers it laid off. The decision might come down to how a company handled the layoffs.
If they no longer wanted you because investors told them to get rid of you, why would they care about you if you rejoined?
If you’re not desperate for a job, and found it at least tolerable before, then I’d say ask for an outrageous salary increase. Worst-case, you stay at your new job, best case you go back to your old job but making more money.
Meh, with that higher pay you’ll be first on the chopping block the next time investors get antsy anyway. Better to just stick with the new place.
Wait… Why would it be awkward for the employees who you want to re-hire? They would just simply ask a much higher pay… You need their expertise and their knowledge, you have to pay their demanded salary…
It should be more awkward for the companies…
Because this was intended to reduce salaries. And many of those people who were laid off have been unemployed since and are likely desperate for a paycheck again.
You’ll see these folks easily take a 50 to 100k cut on TC. (granted many are making 300k+ already)
In circumstances where you decide to leave and are rehired they start you back at the low end of the band for the level you’re at, however in layoff situations I’ve heard you’re generally rehired at the salary you made before layoffs as long as you had decent ratings.
If they’re taking an immediate cut after layoffs it’s likely because their RSUs have reset, which also means they get an initial grant that’s higher than the continuous equity refreshers. In every scenario I’ve seen you average more TC while your initial grant is active, so while this might be an immediate cut, they’ll average more compensation over the vesting period of the initial grant.
I know some people in FAANG and spend a lot of time on Blind.
On the flip side, there’s also the issue of their generous severance packages. Slight TC drop but for a lot of time they got to just sit and wait things out.
I don’t want to diminish the stress though, the stress of not knowing what’s next is huge, and in my opinion should be accounted for in the TC to return.
Require big extras plus signing bonus to cover the time and frustration of being laid off.
Then spend your free time interviewing with other finished that better match your expectations
“I need a signing bonus with an anti-layoff clause”
Four day work week and I’d consider it.
And all of them WFH.
Pretty common in tech layoffs altogether. Been through several waves over the years and typically the CEO goes “we don’t need this team, what do they do anyways?” before firing them and finding out exactly what that team did. I’ve always told coworkers to tell them hell no.
Make sure they double your salary, and if they don’t give you an ironclad contract, keep looking for other jobs. Screw those guys.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Salesforce told Bloomberg it expects to hire in areas like sales, engineering, and data cloud product teams — and said the new workers will help grow the company’s AI business to draw further investments.
Salesforce execs, and Benioff in particular, have over the years encouraged workers to view their colleagues and the company itself as “Ohana,” a Hawaiian term referring to family.
Earlier this year, the company — under pressure from activist investors to boost growth and margins — said it would step up its focus on profitability and efficiency.
One Reddit user, in late July, asked for advice on whether to return to a former employer that had laid the person off only to turn around weeks later and offer a management position in a different division.
The person, who’d already started another, less-lucrative job, faced a dilemma: “The company laid me off not too long ago so I obviously have reservations,” the user wrote.
Sucher said those workers who do decide to give it another go with a former employer are likely going to want to know what a company’s strategy is so that it doesn’t find itself once again cutting staff.
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and said the new workers will help grow the company’s AI business to draw further investments.
Hard fuckin pass.
For me it was this:
Salesforce execs, and Benioff in particular, have over the years encouraged workers to view their colleagues and the company itself as “Ohana,” a Hawaiian term referring to family.
Any company that tries to pull that type of psychological shit is just looking to take advantage of workers.
You’re missing out then. AI tech jobs might as well be fucking voodoo to the suits still. If you can write a basic pytorch app, you can get paid a huge amount of money to do very little work at the moment.
Nah, im sticking to my new place. However if they gonna double and work half a day or just 2 hours. I’ll reconsider as a side job.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Okay, I’ll come back. But for twice the pay and half of the work.
r00ty@kbin.life 9 months ago
I think this is the answer. Time for the companies to experience the bad side of fire and rehire.