Submitted 1 year ago by witchdoctor@lemmy.basedcount.com to privacyguides@lemmy.one
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What does “cloudflare so who cares lol” mean exactly?
Cloudflare is so good that you don’t even have to care about your privacy because they’ve got it covered?
or
Nobody who uses Cloudflare would care about privacy, and for some reason that’s worthy of a “lol”?
or what?
Cloudflare is one of the biggest privacy violators. They effectively act as a MITM which has your SSL keys and can read all the traffic between your browser and a website. Now imagine a single entity having the SSL keys to read the traffic of an important portion of the internet.
Oh and they block Tor and VPN users too.
Cloudflare is bad.
Care to explain? I just set up zero trust Tunnel with them 😶
Please someone explian the cloudflare bit.
I mean, who doesn’t like a random table without some further explanation?
Cloudflare typically provides DDOS protection to websites, as well as CAPTCHAs and preventing bot access, and speeds up connections through their CDN.
People mostly dislike Cloudflare to my understanding because at the end of the day, they’re a giant US big tech company with a pretty massive amount of centralized control over the internet. I generally avoid them where possible.
Yeah they’re not evil per se, but any monopoly should be avoided. The market needs more segmentation.
OK thanks for the explanation
It makes you activate cookies and JavaScript, which serves to deanonymize you.
OK, thank. So cloudflare = bad
an answer I gave to another comment lemmy.world/comment/3542428
Are you the creator of 4get, OP? Your account is 4 days old, the same age as the post announcing 4get on reddit: old.reddit.com/…/4get_a_proxy_search_engine_that_…
Why not just announce your project normally here instead of this biased chart?
I’m not the creator of 4get, the chart is from here: digdeeper.club/articles/search.xhtml
That should definitely be linked for context of this “data”
No Kagi search?
Kagi is so good, I just wish they’d lower the price…
Exactly. I had to stop using it because for the number of searches I had to switch to the $25/month! Way too much for me!
I just started using Kagi and am actually still in my 100 free search trial period. I have already added some bitcoin to my account to subscribe when the time comes.
Maybe someone can ELI5 how Kagi works then. Yes, I read all their documentation, but I’m still not convinced on the “100% privacy-respecting”. In our world of proprietary back ends with peepers, cloud backdoors along with home assistants and cars that say “we don’t listen”, but suddenly have evidence when they need it - How can we trust Kagi? They say;
no telemetry, ads, or collection of private information
and
we do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account
But there’s “plans” that count your searches per month, so that is attributed to your account. They can tell if you use a bang, so they do have the ability to see what you search for. They also see if you reload the same search, so it knows exactly what you searched for. They can tell the difference between images and news and whether you’re loading more content, and attribute that to your account.
What I’m hearing is that we’re supposed to trust them when they say “hey guys, we don’t look even though we can/could see everything”? Is that it?
It’s most likely an API key that counts each search performed and logs it against your account. You don’t need to see a user’s search to track that information.
That sounds reasonable and likely the method. Would you indulge a few more relevant questions? Could that API also know your search term without sharing it? How can we know that the API is not being abused? And, can access to an API like that be shared, or hacked? Are we still at “we don’t look even though we could”?
My favourite search engine, Ecosia, is listed. I’d prefer if they didn’t log IPs, but their cause is so good and effective that it’s worth it to me. I can use a VPN if it bothers me.
I’ve never heard about Ecosia, what is the good cause?
They spend their revenue on planting trees
This! And switching to DDG or others if TOR is needed.
Interested in more info about Brave Search. How is their claim of having an own index “doubtful”, and how do they have “extreme” censorship?
anecdotal but i ended up switching from ddg and searxng to brave because of how much more relevant and well structured i found their search results to be so i’m not sure i agree with the findings for that column
absolutely hate the company and am skeptical of their practices, but even considering all that their search toes the line of privacy and functionality better than a lot of others, at least in the case of a daily user who needs a service that lies somewhere in the middle of those 2 extremes
They has SearX but not Whoogle. If you just want a search proxy and only want the core features I highly recommend it.
I didn’t know that one. Very interesting! Thanks for sharing
+1 for Kagi
You should give credit to digdeeper.
Why is kagi not on the list?
Ok… so how would I get 4get to work?
Qwant shares data with 3rd parties? source?
For instance, Qwant relies on ad services from Microsoft for revenue. Consequently, Qwant needs to collect and transmit the IP addresses and search terms of its users to Microsoft. Microsoft, as some of us may know, isn't exactly a role model in privacy.
However, Qwant claims that it doesn't transmit IP addresses and search terms as a pair. Instead, search terms and IP addresses are transmitted differently using different services to make it hard for the parties involved to tie search terms to IP addresses. In other words, they make it hard for third-party services to build a profile on you. Nonetheless, some would argue that the mere fact that Qwant collects this kind of data is a potential privacy
loophole.
Qwant shares some of the data it collects with advertising partners like Microsoft. Your search keywords, IP address data, and geographical location are shared with Microsoft and are stored for at least 18 months following Microsoft privacy policies. Although Qwant tries to anonymize the data it shares, its methods aren't exactly foolproof.
And then there's the issue of being asked to turn over a user's data by law enforcement. Like any other company, even privacy-focused search engines service would have to comply with a court-ordered request for data. Consequently, this means your data can somehow fall into the hands of a third-party.
From https://www.makeuseof.com/qwant-vs-duckduckgo-which-search-engine-most-private/
Want privacy policy : https://about.qwant.com/en/legal/confidentialite/
laughs through my pi-hole
What about Yacy? I didn’t see that mentioned. I haven’t used it before, but I’ve heard you can self-host it and it offers decentralized search.
Isn’t it just enough to use Google with Firefox in a Google container (and uBlockOrigin and Canvas locker)? In this way no search can be tied up to me.
P.s. I also have the plugin Google search link fix, but I’m not sure it’s needed with the Google container
What’s up with cloud flare?
Too much power
MonosyllabicAmerican@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Those fragile little snowflakes actually have a search just for them lol?
FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 1 year ago
Alternative facts need their own alternative engine. Just one more facet to the echo chamber. 😔