From a lifetime android user ios didn’t have that feature? What the hell, or would you just install a third party maps app to have it.
Apple Maps will finally be getting offline downloads
Submitted 1 year ago by tst123@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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input@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tandybaum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve always used google maps on my iPhone and it has offline maps. I use it pretty regularly on trips to be damn sure I can get where I’m going regardless of cell signal.
I never used Apple Maps because it was HORRIBLE when it first came out. I used it a few times more recently and it’s actually pretty decent. With offline maps I might give it another real try.
LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I find that Apple Maps gives very solid arrival estimates. When I used Google Maps it always seemed to over or undershoot the length of time it would take me to get where I was going in the moment. I also find that Apple’s voice guidance seems to be better and clearer about what it wants you to do. I switched over to it exclusively about two years ago.
shadysus@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Yea that would have been a dealbreaker for me. I’ve used offline maps while traveling fairly often. That’s one of the main advantages of GPS, not needing to send any signals to determine your position. The device calculates it locally based the timing of info that arrives from GPS satellites
CaptainAlchemy@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Once again, I’m still trying to figure out how apple users can defend this. Yes, Google maps had this feature, but everytime I talk to apple users I’m always told they got their phone because “it just works!”. But then I learn that features I consider basic at best are completely missing. If my iphone should “just work” I expect the features I want to exist without another app installation. Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 1 year ago
The ability to put home screen icons where I want them.
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn’t require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture ‘because’.
Stupid thing is both of these could be added in a minor software update, but I’ve been holding by breath for a decade now…
As I have to use both platforms for development those are the things that I notice most.
Rexios@lemm.ee 1 year ago
A back gesture that works everywhere, and doesn’t require me to hunt and peck because the app developer has invented some random unique gesture ‘because’.
People keep saying this and yet this has literally never happened to me in 5 years of using iOS. Maybe don’t use apps developed by people that don’t know what they’re doing? Developers can disable the back button on android too if they hate their users.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
Mystery resolved.
Basically iPhone users don’t know what they don’t have because they never bothered to look outside of their little world garden. There are some good features of iPhones (like 3) but mostly they’re just been sold as a lifestyle product.
Custodian1623@lemmy.world 1 year ago
or… some people just prefer iPhone? Disliking android os doesn’t make me tech illiterate
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t see anyone in the Apple forums defending the lack of offline maps. The reaction is more along the lines of “fucking finally.”
People use Apple Maps for the Siri integration and or if they find the maps less cluttered. For long trips in dead zones, Google was always king.
CaptainAlchemy@lemmy.one 1 year ago
To be fair, unlike previous years iphone releases I’ve seen more skepticism than normal. I fully expected diehard apple users to be resenting the removal of the lightning connector due to excess charging cables. And while those comments exist, it is a very small minority of people. However with that said I don’t fully understand the mindset of buying a phone that has limited or obsolete hardware / software. (ergo headphone jack, ergo missing software feature, ergo USB 2.0 from 23 years ago)
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 1 year ago
Downloading Google maps is an option. I have never used Apple maps.
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 year ago
Apple devices are just status symbols. And as such, too many people that cannot really afford them buy the devices and have to tell themselves there's a rational reason to. That's also why they cheer record financial figures, passionately fight criticism or tell people having technical issues that it's their fault. It's basically Stockholm syndrome.
NightAuthor@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve yet to have an android (and I’ve had a few…) that kept up reasonable performance for more than ~2 years. And yes, I’m talking about flagship Samsung, htc, lg, and google phones.
Android has a ton of extra functionality, but while a tough choice, I have been fine using my iPhones. My iPhone 7 lasted 4 years before I decided to upgrade. And my iPhone 11 has been in service for 3 years, though released 4 years ago. Oh and when I broke my 11s screen, the 7 was a perfectly serviceable backup while I waited for a replacement screen to come in, even at 7 years old.
There’s apparently 25% of iPhone users running 4+ year old phones. We’re not your typical status symbol idiot.
ribboo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
That it just works does not mean I’m bound to Apple apps only. It just works includes having fantastic third party apps that do the job when Apples are lacking.
Calendar, maps, music, password manager and the likes are such for me. But it still “just works”.
Missing features at OS level is one thing. But missing features in a goddamn app, when there are alternatives? Common…
CaptainAlchemy@lemmy.one 1 year ago
I think part of the “it just works” definition is the default apps should work without missing features, however you’re not wrong, alternatives so exist.
Asudox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most apple users never even wanted or used an Androod phone, so our collection of basic features are different than theirs (ours is superior, of course)
eee@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Things on iphone only seem to work if you don’t know anything better.
Competition is good, so I like that iOS provides an alternative to Android.
I still consider the lack of sideloading without jailbreaks a dealbreaker for iOS though.
thrawn@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Out of curiosity, how often do you talk about smartphone choice? I’ve never once heard “it just works” in real life, nor have I really talked about what phone I use or why. It’s not a subject I’d purposefully avoid either.
CaptainAlchemy@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Well it tends to come up for me because I’m the tech person around the house and at work, so phone and other device / software recommendations tend to come my way. I don’t really care what phone you use, I ain’t that much of a prick.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
“It just works” is more or less accurate. Apples ecosystem is tightly integrated and we are only now starting to see these features come to Windows and ChroneOS, and they don’t work as well.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s not a big deal? I didn’t even remember there were no offline maps. I haven’t had any connectivity problems in the last several years I guess. I flip back and forth between Apple Maps, Google maps, and Waze depending on my needs or if I forget.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Marketing.
xodoh74984@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The fact that this is the only new “innovation” worth writing an article about is sad. Technological progress has declined so much over the last decade as Big Tech has consolidated the market. Doesn’t help the every minor leap gets turned into a subscription these days either.
SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 1 year ago
Is there an article? I only see a screenshot.
kirklennon@kbin.social 1 year ago
It’s news from over three months ago. This is just a screenshot highlighting a single new feature from the iOS 17 page.
eee@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The era of growth in tech is over. It’s now the era of enshittification and monetization.
See: youtube, netflix, unity, reddit…
stephenc@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You could give an iOS user a current Android phone that has an iOS-like launch screen and an Apple logo on the back and tell them it’s the new iPhone with a whole bunch of new features.
I mean, why don’t we just do this anyway? iPhone is obsolete at this point.
Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
This isn’t an iOS thing, it’s an Apple Maps thing. You could do this with Google maps on iOS to just fine. Google maps was the only map app that had downloadable maps up to this point that I know of, not even Waze - Google’s neglected step child - has it.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
All map apps have had this for ages. Here, Magic, the OSM ones, etc. Apple is the outlier here.
lando55@lemmy.world 1 year ago
First USB-C, now this?! They’re really spoiling us
TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
But it’s only at usb 2.0 speeds
die444die@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is such an overblown complaint. I’d wager a bet that a VAST majority of users never do any data transfer from their cell phones at all anyway, but if you are someone that needs faster transfer, the pro supports it.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 1 year ago
When was the last time you transferred data to or from your phone by cable? The USB port is mostly only for charging.
ITPaw@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Because the controller in the base model supports only 2.0, next year the base model will get the pro chip from this year with 3.0 support, nothing really new
hotchocolateman6969@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And still the biggest bullshit on iPhones is still the lack of clip board and how the copied item will vanish after 20 mins… my ADHD brain won’t remember what I needed that copied thing for because as soon as I see my Home Screen I will end up on a different app and spend an hour on there
phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
That seems extremely niche. The vast majority of the content I copy and paste are passwords or Mfa codes, so that would be a huge security risk keeping it active.
hotchocolateman6969@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s not a niche thing, I come from an android phone nd it still after 2 years bugs the hell out of… mfa expire after a couple minutes anyways before you have to request it again, and then passwords??? Why do you need to copy it when passwords will input it for you after authentication of Face ID? You’ve never used clipboard hence why you assume it’s “niche” thing, but its one of the most side loaded thing on iOS on both iPad and iOS? So not so “niche”
MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 year ago
A tad bit late.
shinratdr@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’m kind of glad the main dev team is seconded to visionOS this year. iOS 17 doesn’t have anything too crazy but the QoL improvements and long-standing feature gaps like this one being closed are really where the attention needs to be.
Apple has really polished Maps, Mail, Safari and Home over the iOS 17 beta period and I hope that continues during the minor updates.
Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
For offline usage, I still prefer using Here WeGo (I still preferido download the full map). For the other 90% usage, Waze and Apple Maps are good enough.
Mister@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
For open source alternatives there is Map.me and Organic Maps.
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 year ago
Maps.me is neither open-source nor free, I believe they even introduced IAP at some point.
Organic Maps though is FOSS and it’s by the same developers. They both use OpenStreetMap mapping data, developers of which created Osmand which is just orders of magnitude more customisable. Quite a powerhouse of a navigation app, but may be overkill for some people.
obinice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Damn, reminds me of when they announced copy and paste was coming to their phones as if it was some incredible breakthrough, and yet everyone else had it on their phones for a long time already.
Now they’re adding basic map features from a decade ago and have the gaul to suggest to their customers that it’s new and innovative?
I wonder what other old, basic phone features Apple customers just don’t have. I feel sorry for them, people playing that much for a premium device deserve better.
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm a big Apple critic too but to be fair that message reads pretty neutral. Where do you see the claim it's new and innovative?
echodot@feddit.uk 1 year ago
I suppose the fact that they feel the need to announce it rather than to just do it.
Anyway this is fairly standard operations for Apple. They did the same when they added widgets to iOS. Gee wow, guys thanks for adding a feature that has been in Android for about 20 years.
die444die@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You mean back in ios3 in 2009? I wonder what phones you think everyone else had back then.
Audbol@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They still don’t have touchscreen support for MacOS. Windows added. Multi-touch sorry in the early 00’s. It’s absolute insanity