Submitted 9 months ago by xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink to programmer_humor@programming.dev
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cross-posted from: ls.buckodr.ink/post/332420
This meme is really only true for things like Slack where the app is just the webpage in an app, and even then it's not quite true because Electron is a lot heavier than a webpage because it has to now run the webpage and the app - which I think is terrible.
But then also, Electron enables actual apps to be developed using web standards - which I think is great.
TLDR: Use Electron to make apps, not glorified webpages.
What are you saving your ram for? You bought it to use it!!!
But I like to snack on it…
People kept arguing with me that not using is a choice and wonder why it is not freedom of choice.
Main difference is the electron app has access to more things on your computer, like files, sensors, microphone, camera etc.
Recently downloaded the KFC app. Strangely the app needs to ask me if I accept cookies, hmmmmmmmmmm
I thought KFC sold chicken 🤔
Please don’t eat my RAM. I need it for mining MemoryCoin ™.
(Not FUD, legit curious)
Is there any way to make RAM production significantly greener than it is today?
It isn't to save RAM the you should use the website over the app for.
I think they’re referring to the fact that often installed apps will be able to mine more of your data
Got myself a laptop and PC with 64GB of RAM. I’ll never look back. 16GB on a dev machine just seem like the bare minimum nowadays.
asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 9 months ago
Web & mobile development took a wrong tern 10 million miles back, and no one wants to turn the car around and admit it.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 9 months ago
What’s possible for web apps today is insane considering where it started. I remember when AJAX was a brand new technology, and now you can do videoconferences with screenshare right in a web browser.
I think the push toward apps is because of influence from mobile. Everyone wants their own app, just like everyone wanted a dot com in the 90s. Hopefully we’ll stabilize around browsers and open standards.
ono@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I would love this, but I think it will require major privacy reform. The push toward apps comes overwhelmingly from a single source: surveillance capitalism.
QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The push towards apps is due to a collection of corporate interests that are of dubious value to the end user.
Apple, Google, and Microsoft prefer apps over websites because they can exert much more control over their functionality and operation (as well as collect that sweet sweet 30% royalty on all digital purchases). This is why they intentionally make Home Screen bookmarks so unintuitive and inconvenient compared to downloading an app (at least on iOS and Windows; not sure about Android). They’re also more difficult to make cross-platform, although this is becoming less and less of an issue as cross-platform libraries evolve).
App developers push for apps because they’re much stickier (especially due to the aforementioned bookmark situation; it’s all very intentional). Their app is right at the user’s fingertips until they explicitly decide to delete it. For streaming services and the like, app SDKs also tend to offer more robust DRM than their browser counterparts. That’s why, e.g., Hulu cripples their streaming bandwidth on browsers like Edge while their Windows app is not, even though their Windows app is very obviously just an Edge WebView 2 window. It’s pathetic, but it’s something they can point to in a meeting with their investors and say, “See? We’re doing something about piracy!” as if one trip to a piracy website doesn’t refute all their hard work.
Bipta@kbin.social 9 months ago
It took a wrong turn in the late 90s. There's been no real feasible way to fix it without breaking the web for many decades now. Some things are just forever despite their problems, like QWERTY.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 9 months ago
So let’s break the dang web
Fal@yiffit.net 9 months ago
htmx.org
I’m working on a little project to try this out.
asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yes, I couldn’t recommend htmx highly enough.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Half the problem is that js was made over a weekend and we cant seem to come up with a different solution.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 9 months ago
WASM