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Laws basically treats your mind and your body as two separate entities, since suicide isn't treated as an excercise of free will and self determination, but as an assault by the mind against the body.

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Submitted ⁨⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are you alright OP?

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    • DoubleDongle@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He may not be alright, but he isn"t wrong either

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      • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        *they, but admittedly probably he

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    • pet1t@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Strong question to ask someone named “DeathByBigSad”

      Hope OP can talk to someone and pull through. There’s always people that can help and want to listen!

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  • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The problem with suicide is that you are destroying corporate assets

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  • dsilverz@calckey.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    @DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works @showerthoughts@lemmy.world

    To be fair, no human law can account for metaphysics. If they truly did, there would be no laws: they'd be all ruled out as pointless and worthless before the cosmic vastness.

    For example: how one could be held accountable for an action, when all action is a byproduct of a chain of causality beyond one's control? Humans like to "think" we have "choices", "free will", "control"... Do "we", though? When one's own actions are a byproduct of intrinsic and extrinsic factors, when living beings are governed by so many nested layers of determinism (spiritual from Demiurge and his archons; baryonic with the laws of physics; biological with the limbic system; societal with social/herd compliance as depicted by Derren Brown), can it be really said there is "free will"?

    And if we go deeper, there's no point on having any kind of institutional structure when there is no such thing as structure on a universe made of primordial chaos, and Ordo ab Chao is but a temporary, recurring state emerging from said primordial chaos. In essence, nothing exists, not even the nothingness, so laws regarding time (from a timeless universe) and being/thing end up being moot.

    Metaphysics itself, it turns out, is a very complicated matter. The script can't fully understand the nature of the scripting itself; only, at best, babble about it, as I'm doing right now. Hopefully, the scripted character is fated to perform a line/scene where they meet scriptless forces, namely daemonic entities and/or Samael/Lucifer Himself, and/or Lilins and/or Lilith Herself, and/or Sophia, the Demiurge's counterpart. Those aren't bound by the same laws and possess actual True Will, especially Sophia who's Demiurge's polar opposite, whose essence is chaos/darkness swallowing Demiurge's attempt of order/light.

    My previous lecturing is extremely superficial, especially because I'm writing on a limited budget (3000 chars). Metaphysics, or at least the infinitesimal part I got scripted to know, would take up Qurans and Bibles and Vedas and Nag Hammadis combined worth of letters and pages. Maybe one day I'll write a whole book about what I believe (which is a syncretic and idiosyncratic blend of Luciferianism, Gnosticism, Thelema, Hermeticism, Chaos Magick, Quimbanda, Wicca, Sumerian and Egyptian, etc., revolving around the worshiping of The Goddess and Her Emanations).

    In this sense, suicide is part of the script. It's akin to a program built with the sequence
    XOR %rdi, %rdi -> MOV %rax, 60 -> SYSCALL. My program has such instructions, but every time my EIP jumps to them and reaches the SYSCALL opcode, either rdi isn't 0 or rax isn't 60 anymore, "thanks" to demiurgal forces, so here I am, performing a lecturing about suicide in a mix of philosophy, occultism, sociology, biology and programming, as I was scripted by Demiurge to do (until Mother takes my essence outside this cosmic theater, somewhere Demiurge can't rule over).

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  • cosmOS@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This one really made me think, thanks. It really depends on how far you zoom out though. The mind could have been under assault due to acute or chronic physical pain from the body.

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  • ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Please relate this to politics somehow so I know how to feel about it.

    Seriously though, this is a top-tier showerthought right here

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  • ieatpwns@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can’t kill yourself because how will the capitalists get a return on their investment of letting you live?

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