www.ynharari.com/book/nexus/ is a great book btw.
I think it’s more like people admiring a uranium fragment in ancient times. Better to stay out of it and let others decay themselves by using it
Submitted 23 hours ago by Sleerk@feddit.uk to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
www.ynharari.com/book/nexus/ is a great book btw.
I think it’s more like people admiring a uranium fragment in ancient times. Better to stay out of it and let others decay themselves by using it
Good news is that there are people out there who are trying to make an ethical AIs. It’s still an atom bomb (and as ethical) as you say, but at least it could be in the hands of those that actually value human well-being, not just their profit margin.
This podcast had an interesting conversation on it: …acast.com/…/new-horizons-ai-neuroscience-awakeni…
And the research paper: arxiv.org/pdf/2504.15125
I think that this is good and all for a regular person end user that might want to use it for efficiency. But the main problem OP is stating is that there will be people who will not use it so ethically, and we may not have the ability to “opt out”, as it were.
True that. But I think it’s valuable that there are people trying to find ways to make it ethical, since there’s no way to put it back in the box either.
Let’s also add the existential crisis now of AI soon to be having non-human interaction to execute kill commands on human beings in the “Defense” section. :(
But only the worst people have it, use it and demand it.
I’d be more worried about that if it wasn’t a fucking dumpster fire TBH, but a person using AI won’t even be remotely capable of competing against a person who genuinely knows what they’re doing for anything that actually matters: AI is dangerous to use if you are unable to correct the mistakes it is guaranteed to make.
It’s also why we can’t stop using fossil fuels. Those who refuse to use them will be outcompeted by bad actors and left behind.
If something can be done, someone will do it if it gives them a competitive edge. Classic prisoners’ dilemma.
So what will get us first, AI or climate change?
Humanity’s condition is not terminal, but your fatalism is…
Terminal…fatalism
I see what you did there
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
okay then where are all of the amazing novels, apps, movies, and productivity gains they were claiming?
it’s more like lead, its mildly more convenient for completing a few tedious tasks but the trade-off is brain damage and profound waste and pollution
Sleerk@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
The danger isn’t just bad art, and only thinking of genAI is dangerous. It’s about how it’s being woven into the systems that manage us. It can already analyze years of a person’s digital activity to make automated judgments on employment or detect “wrongthink” in political contexts. We’re essentially building an invisible bureaucracy that can categorize and penalize people at a scale no human could ever audit. And do so at speed an efficiency that not even a whole department of humans could ever compete with. That’s the atom bomb.
Algorithmic internet is already a horrible problem and AI can make it worse.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Yeah I’m worried about them a) creating botnets that simulate grassroots political movements b) as this user said, the joke about everybody having their own government agent was absurd because that level of attention given to and individuals activity was impossible. That’s about to be a lot less impossible.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
The people who warn about AI risk are not worried about GenAI but AGI.
dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 21 hours ago
I warn about AI. I don’t care about AGI (yet) because we are far from it.
I’m worried about (in no particular order):
Nothing about this is small or cute.
I would be totally fine with something that can run locally on my laptop without cooking it and doubling my energy bill. Also an economy where productivity gains benefit the workers, not the CEO. If I can do the same work in half the time, let me have the rest of the day off at full pay instead of firing half your staff.
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
AGI is fake
verdigris@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
Yeah no only people who don’t understand the tech are worried about AGI. There is zero evidence to suggest that we’re anywhere on the right path to develop it. The chatbots are not intelligent, they are just a big bag of all the data the trainers could scrape and an algorithm to pull things out of that bag in a way that humans like.
Actual AGI would require us to understand how consciousness works. We don’t at all.
HubertManne@piefed.social 20 hours ago
I don’t see anything in what the op wrote suggesting ai is useful.
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
You’re saying this as if no progress is being made. Shit is scary. They’re researching at an alarming pace how to eliminate thought-based work, and only a few years in they are like maybe a third or halfway there.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Theres a weird quirk of AI haters who can only see the flaws and cant see how incredible its got out of nowhere. Like yes its got limits and problems and it may never be actually truly useful, but compare what we have now to what we had 10 years ago…whats it gonna be in another 10?
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Somewhere on TPB