How do we make the AI firms bankrupt faster?
Data centers are now hoarding SSDs as hard drive supplies dry up
Submitted 1 day ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.techspot.com/news/110196-data-centers-now-hoarding-ssds-hard-drive-supplies.html
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MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
derpgon@programming.dev 21 hours ago
At this moment I am seriously considering if we mayhaps need a tool that automatically queries the AI tools with random garbage just to eat up their budget.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 21 hours ago
That counts as usage, they’ll use it to convince investors.
ulterno@programming.dev 20 hours ago
It is useless to play this game against them. All the top players are already in.
Best, find your own way to create ICs and make them for community purposes.
There will be much less money and you will be tempted to sell to AI chaps, so you will need willpower.
Specially after putting the time and effort to manufacture yourselves.ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 20 hours ago
It does somewhat feel like all the levers of power are in the hands of people who have little to no reliance on the consumer market anymore. Your money is no good here.
They can all enjoy the perfect financial circlejerk with most of the world’s money whilst the rest of us scratch at the window.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
The silver lining in all this is that when this bubble explodes we’ll probably have a glut in the supply of HDDs and SSDs, driving prices down.
Just hold any plans to upgrade your hardware for a year or two and you’ll end up better of (for many it will even be a good exercise to wean oneself out of the Consumer Society’s mindless “instant gratification” impulses).
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The devices will be returned to the supplier (they are supplied on credit) and then destroyed.
The manufacturers won’t want to flood the market with discounted hardware.
charles@social.charles.wiki 8 hours ago
Actually no. We won’t due to anti gray market policies from data centers. For example Google shreds all HDDs after their service life(5years max usually) expires. We have a net loss from the data center hardware fiasco.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
The social dynamic would flip overnight if Americans suddenly had self control. The oligarchs control us by controlling our habits, and so many people are mindless about their habits and are impulsive and subservient as a result. Call it “soft striking” if you will. Just buy essentials and make your fun with what you have.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Exactly.
People behaving as “consumers” supports the current system and hence supports the harmful side effects of such system, from the systemic suffering from wealth inequality to ecological destruction.
Whilst very few of us, living within this system, can’t in practice stop living within the system, we can refrain from living in accordance with the rules of the system which are not imposed on us via removing all other choices or force, but which we are “nudged” or manipulated to follow using marketing or even propaganda.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 10 hours ago
The social dynamic would flip overnight if Americans suddenly had self control.
“If only everyone would get together and collectively do <insert whatever>” we could actually fix a lot of problems.
There is no solidarity in society. Some of that is by design, but a lot of it is human nature.
TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
you’ll end up better
…maybe not if you are part of that bubble in some way, e.g. by participating in the corresponding stock markets that are currently dominated by those tech companies.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
So best change your investment strategy, then.
If people persist in riding this bubble out of greed, it’s only fair if they get burned when it blows up.
AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Man, fuck those guys
mlg@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Next year’s CES is gonna be every AI product from this year’s CES but with no progress on release date because they can’t even buy the consumer grade hardware to produce it since it all went into data centers lol.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 day ago
Back to punch cards we go. Or are they hoarding paper too?
unphazed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“This just in. Panic buying of paper has led to shortages in timber, resulting in another round of toilet paper scarcity.”
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 15 hours ago
Cue that guy laughing in between mountains of toilet paper
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 day ago
Tariffs already gutted the barley starting to recover from the pandemic wood shortage.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Are now? Haven’t they been using flash first?
Hard drives suck for that work load. Their seek times are huge, their throughput is awful, and they’re worse storage density than HDDs. You can fit 24 2.5" ssds into a 2u server. 16TB in a 2.5" > 24TB in 3.5" SSDs were first to skyrocket in price vs HDDs.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No. AI companies have huge storage requirements for training data. Flash storage is not cost efficient for mass storage quantities.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
For massive companies space is as costly as the price of the storage. Especially these AI companies don’t care much about the price of things.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
A"I" companies want to store petabytes of “good” training data
TehWorld@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Exabytes. Petabytes are easily surpassed by a lot of companies these days.
Auth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
the consumer hardware market is so tiny. It has almost no buying power or pull. Its hard to expect them to cater to it when its single digit % of their overall sales.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Hungry Mungry sat at supper, Took his knife and spoon and fork, Ate a bowl of mushroom soup, ate a slice of roasted pork, Ate a dozen stewed tomatoes, twenty-seven deviled eggs, Fifteen shrimps, nine bakes potatoes, Thirty-two fried chicken legs, A shank of lamb, a boiled ham, Two bowls of grits, some black-eye peas, Four chocolate shakes, eight angel cakes, Nine custard pies with Muenster cheese, Ten pots of tea, and after he, Had eaten all that he was able, He poured some broth on the tablecloth And ate the kitchen table. His parents said, ‘Oh Hungry Mungry, stop these silly jokes.’ Mungry opened up his mouth, and ‘Gulp,’ he ate his folks. And then he went and ate his house, all the bricks and wood, And then he ate up all the people in the neighborhood. Up came twenty angry policeman shouting, ‘Stop and cease.’ Mungry opened his mouth and ‘Gulp,’ he ate the police. Soldiers came with tanks and guns. Said Mungry, ‘They can’t harm me.’ He just smiled and licked his lips and ate the U.S. Army.
The President sent all his bombers- Mungry still was calm, Put his head back, gulped the planes, and gobbled up the bomb. He ate his town and ate the city- ate and ate and- And then he said, ‘I think I’ll eat the whole United States.’
And so he ate Chicago first and munched the Water Tower, And then he chewed on Pittsburgh but he found it rather sour. He ate New York and Tennessee, and all of Boston town, Then drank the Mississippi River just to wash it down. And when he’d eaten every state, each puppy, boy and girl He wiped his mouth upon his sleeve and went to eat the world.
He ate the Egypt pyramids and every church in Rome, And all the grass in Africa and all in ice in Nome. He ate each hill in green Brazil and then to make things worse He decided for dessert he’d eat the universe.
He started with the moon and stars and soon as he was done He gulped the clouds, he sipped the wind and gobbled up the sun. Then sitting there in the cold dark air, He started to nibble his feet, Then his legs, then his hips Then his neck, then his lips Till he sat there just gnashin’ his teeth ‘Cause nothin’ was nothin’ was Nothin’ was nothin’ was Nothin’ was left to eat.
- Hungry Mungry, Shel Silverstein
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 day ago
On the upside, we consumers get to have the superior TLC SSDs (better write durability).
UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
But at double the price that they were a few months ago.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Compared to microns?
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 day ago
TLC is the technology, not the manufacturer. TLC means three bits per cell, versus QLC which has 4 bits per cell. Every extra bit the cell has to store exponentially reduces its write cycle.
Asafum@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“Why does the population hate us? We’re only completely destroying the consumer electronics market, accelerating climate change, aiming to eliminate countless jobs, increasing power costs, and stealing the works of millions of people to feed our system all so we can get even more obscenely wealthy? Please clap.”
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You forgot to mention that the product they’re sacrificing everything for is widely failing to meet expectations and that they will likely expect taxpayers to bail them out when their investments fail and threaten to take out the entire economy with themselves
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Also in a few years when the AI generated nonsense code reaches a critical point and a ton of important systems grind to a halt, we’ll expect all of you that we fired to come back and un-fuck it for us so we can keep on making money. On temporary contracts and at reduced wages of course because times are tough.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 day ago
To be clear, it only wildly fails to meet expectations in sectors that you hear about.
It’s most definitely medium expectations in sectors you don’t hear about because news and social media have a huge negativity bias because that gets views and engagement.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I have a feeling, that the tech sector has enough kompromat on a lot of important people to keep the bubble from bursting.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 day ago
Didn’t forget draining all their drinking water. Violating everyone’s copyright. Driving teens to suicide. Giving terrible medical advice. And Generating csam.
SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
The water things still baffles me out. Like…just…cycle it. It’s a heat exchange system.
What do they do with the water? Pump thru once and then dump it?
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
I, for one, applaud anything that helps destroy the current Intellectual Property system,
Not the other things, though.
Strider@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
It’s a mystery!
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I am start to think they are going on the acceleroism theory to push the society to the limits and destroy all for change
Some think this could lead to a more equallytary society, some wants to make a more centralized and controlled by one power sort of society, there is 2 different school of thought on this.
But we are clearly going to have big changes