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Researchers Dropped 1,000 AIs in Minecraft and Watched a Civilization Form

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨return2ozma@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://geektyrant.com/news/researchers-dropped-1000-ais-in-minecraft-and-watched-a-civilization-form

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  • MrNesser@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    As an experiment it’s flawed the AIs had directives already and just followed them.

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    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      To be fair, “build a society” is pretty vague and there are tons of directives that ai is incapable of succeeding.

      It is interesting to see how how far they got and how it interprets “society” cause one could argue that the existence of criminals is part of society and an individual ai could reason that in order to create their interpretation of society they must become a dictator first.

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  • Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So the AI followed the prompt by emulating its training data?

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    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And in a rigidly defined digital medium no less!

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  • webadict@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Holy shit. This is the craziest article to write about one of the shittiest videos I have ever seen.

    That video is glazing the fuck out of LLMs, and the creator knows jackshit about how AIs or even computers work. What a fucking moron.

    So, like, the point of the experiment is that LLMs will generate outputs based on their inputs, and then those outputs are interpreted by an intermediary program to do things in games. And the video is trying to pretend that this is LITERALLY a new intelligent species emerging because you never told it to do anything other than its initial goal! Which… Isn’t impressive? LLMs generate outputs based on their datasets, like, that’s not in question. That isn’t intelligence, because it is just one giant mathematics problem.

    This article is a giant pile of shit.

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    • bleistift2@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you argue like that then neither intelligence nor societies exist. A the fundamental level, every neuron just computes its output from its inputs, quite predictably even. That doesn’t mean emergent behaviours cannot exist.

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      • webadict@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Just as a brain is not a giant statistics problem, LLMs are not intelligent. LLMs are basically large math problems that take what you put into them and calculate the remainder. That isn’t an emergent behavior. That isn’t intelligence at all.

        If I type into a calculator 20*10 and it gives me 400, is that a sign of intelligence that the calculator can do math? I never programmed it to know what 10 or 20 or 400 were, though I did make it know what multiplication is and what digits and numbers are, but those particular things it totally created on its own after that!!!

        When you type a sentence into an LLM and it returns with an approximation of what a response sounds like, you should treat it the same way. People programmed these things to do the things that they are doing, so what behavior is fucking emergent?

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      • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Humans aren’t rational creatures though… we use rationality as a tool, but tools designed to mimic rationality aren’t actually mimicking humans. Human intelligence has a lot to do with being irrational, arational, and sometimes deciding to use rationality as a means to an end. Societies are emergent from the social patterns produced via agents with those particular behaviors. Social patterns like morals, religion, culture, … It’s really not the same thing as stuffing a bunch of LLMs in a box. The LLMs don’t have the same capabilities for growth, failure, awareness thereof, … nor any of the natural pressures that would even incentivize such awareness. They’re just little feedforward algorithms stuck in a feedback loop with each other.

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    A “wild experiment” of using N bots in a game.

    Every Jedi Outcast multiplayer melee in my childhood was more interesting than today’s news.

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  • Goatboy@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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