Submitted 1 year ago by Stamets@startrek.website to risa@startrek.website
The fact that there are two references to Musk in Discovery is a bit disheartening. There’s this one from Lorca but another when Tilly says she went to a school named after Musk.
I choose to believe that in this alternate universe he kept his mouth shut.
Think of all the shitty historical figures that are celebrated today because a century later no one remembers what they were actually like
Or people do remember but it's "not polite" to bring it up. How many schools are named after Colombus? Or Edison?
At least Henry Ford was a successful businessman while he moonlighted as a fascist.
That’s very true. However those people weren’t shouting their horrific views to the world through an internationally used service. They also weren’t reported on by worldwide media and memed to high heaven. There’s a pretty solid record at this point of Elon being a cuntwaffle. Hard to forget that.
An alternative timeline in which Elon isn’t a huge piece of shit. Hard to fathom, but it’s the only way I can see that working.
It’s near impossible to not be a piece of shit if your a billionaire. The only way to get that much money is to use people’s necks as ladder rungs the whole way up, then destroy the ladder after you got to the top.
Honestly though. That or he listened to Public Relations people and decided not to be… well… himself.
Maybe he learned to not be an asshole during the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s.
@Stamets I choose to believe thre was someone else by this name who wasn't an idiot. They mean the 22nd Century Elon Musk.
I would love it if they actually did that.
I’ve not seen the newer star trek shows yet, but given the whole global war stuff that happens in the star trek universe between now and the time the stories are usually set in, perhaps crucial details about who Musk was were lost to history, and he’s just remembered for something spaceX did at some point, or he’s had a pr campaign that was successful at getting history books of the future to portray him in a more flattering light?
This line was foreshadowing Lorca’s origin. You see, mirror Musk was actually competent, making him the precise inverse of real Musk.
I don’t care that the timing is suspect and there’s another Musk reference in Discovery, I’ll die on this hill.
Tilly says she went to a school named after Musk.
I firmly believe that someone had to talk the writer responsible out of making Tilly a graduate of Bit Connect High School.
It wasn’t so long ago that everyone was singing his praises. I haven’t seen a reputation squandered so quickly since Game of Thrones.
I am still glad my natural distrust of billionaires who praise private enterprise as the ultimate expression of progress and freedom paid off… as per usual.
That there is a good instinct
Nah.
People outside of tech maybe and that’s because non-tech media treat venture capitalists like they want to be treated. Which is that they’re “tech geniuses”.
Really they’re just the money that pays workers and take all the credit for their oversized egos.
If he’d have stuck to buying startups like lottery tickets and kept his mouth shut, 100 years from now people would talk about like how Edison gets talked about to school kids today: no problems mentioned and gets credit for everything
I’m not a techie but it was clear from the start he’s just an edgy 14 yr old but with money.
I wouldn’t have a problem with that if he’d just own up to it but he keeps acting like some morally superior being.
Remember when Elon got a cameo in Iron Man 2 in exchange for letting them shoot some scenes at the SpaceX factory? Not sure if that’d happen anymore.
“Elon, how’s it going? Those Merlin engines are amazing.”
“Thank you. I’ve got an idea for an electric jet.”
“You do?”
“Yeah.”
“Then we’ll make it work.”
I recently rewatched that movie and had completely forgotten he had that cameo, my eyes rolled so hard I almost couldn’t finish the movie.
Larry Ellison from Oracle had a cameo too. It was gross.
That’s the same method Trump used to get movies to give him cameo roles. Wanna use the building? Give the egomaniac a pointless cameo.
It rules that the Mirror Universe guy was a Musk fan. Possibly not an intentional dig, but it’s pitch-perfect in retrospect. I love Lorca. What a fun character.
It totally wasn't an intentional dig, but damn if the reference didn't age like a fine wine.
Mirror universe Musk was actually a great guy who selflessly tried to improve humanity, and mirror-Lorca calls him a great man because that’s who good people in his universe would praise. think-about-it
Bahaha, in the mirror universe, Elon Musk died a pauper while trying to prevent the eugenics wars.
Heavy foreshadowing
That scene is from 2017. Back then he was still revered as “the real life Iron Man”.
I’ve never been that big of a Trek fan and just started doing a chronological binge of the shows starting with Enterprise. My reaction to the Elon references when I got to Discovery was “well that aged like milk”. That doofus really ruined his reputation to simp for Nazis and dictators and became just another subject for Behind the Bastards to laugh at.
It’s sad they chose his name over Henry Coanda, Sikorsky, Frank Whittle or even Wernher von Braun.
*every brazillian crying in rage about Santos Dumont*
That lore definitely comes from the Terran Federation. No way Musk is remembered as anything but an embarrasment by then.
Unfortunately Tilly mentions a school named after Musk in Season 2
I mean I ignore Discovery anyway, the modern method of story telling does not fit well and leaves little time for focus on the characters. It instead opts for season long existential plots to grab viewers’ attention. Which cramps character development and our attachments to them. And that sucks cause a lot of Discovery’s characters are cool.
Replace elon with Kelly Johnson
HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This is why you don’t have your scifi shows praise people who are still alive irl…
Seriously David Tennant’s doctor praising JK aged horribly… espcially since Tennant is a trans ally who absolutely hates her guts.
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
I forgot about the JK praise. The second you mentioned it all I could hear was “Good Ol’ JK!”
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You think the already deceased are safe? Don’t you remember the controversy when they named the space telescope after James Webb?
Rusty@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’ve watched all episodes of Doctor Who, but I don’t remember who’s JK?