Australia begins enforcing world-first teen social media ban

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• ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think its a big positive

  That’s an ironic position to hold given your username…

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well I changed my opinion. :)

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• Fokeu@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why does almost everything that is supposed to protect kids turns out to be another authoritarian fantasy of the ruling class?

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  • deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Because when you talk about protection or safety for children or animals or [insert vulnerable group here] you can short-circuit a lot of people’s reason/skepticism.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Because evil runs these people. Its actually that simple. When these guys speak, its easy to hear they are evil, because of how they speak.

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    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I saw a carousel for kids today and thought it looked creepy. Everything is so bad that now when I see something made for joy or innocent-looking, I automatically think it’s a front for something sinister. The current state of affairs is bad.

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• mjr@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  No mention of enforcement in that article. No kids getting fined or arrested for using VPNs or buying accounts off others. This law is primarily a Trojan horse to build the ID document and facial recognition databases and smash the scourge of anonymous people criticising governments and oligarchs.

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• PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I can’t see this working out well for anyone

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• cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  online was one of the first positive queer places i had since i didn’t have anything irl; stef sanjati was also the first out trans person who made me realise i could do this.
  which i suspect is the entire reasoning for the ban.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Probably bigger than that - they want to make all of us feel watched. But yeah, its worse if you are on a group the US government is currently oppressing. The way things are going, I guess we all will be in some kind of a group like that sooner or later. Like “social media terrorist” for having negative opinions about the US online.

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• General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I see that you’ve changed your opinion, OP, but I still have a question.

  How did seeing this as positive go together with being on the fediverse? How do the volunteers running this thing cope with these demands?

  More generally: How can the open internet survive if every local government makes its own rules about what information or service you may or mustn’t give its citizens?

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    America is already deciding almost everything about the internet, through owning the operating systems, the networks, big tech companies, Ai, and so on.

    They could make a law that forces all major american websites to require a global auth cookie, that people can only get by doing age verification at some site.

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    • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I can’t really make sense of that. Do you understand that Lemmy instances are run by just some random people?

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• sleen@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think it’s a big positive

  Is it really? Ask yourself, is the oppression of individuals based on age really a positive?

  Do the voices, opinions and perspectives of those most impacted by this monstrous lawn not matter to you? Because all this proves is your support towards a fascist regime.

  Of course, technological factors such as those you have outlined come in play as well. This law is a stepping stone for a totalitarian police state where everyone is impacted - irrespective of age.

  However, the resonance induced in taking control of the corporations, by ultimately taking control of a class of individuals based on fallacious ageist remarks - is what makes this counterproductive, non-inclusive and destructive to trust.

  There are individuals within that class that are using their might into defending their human rights, youth rights - and all you’re doing with supporting this law is disregarding them and treating them as sub-humans. One group of teenagers used 1984 as a highlight to the situation, and they are right. Ageist, infantilisation doesn’t solve nothing.

  As stated before, this law has both issues in technological and egalitarian perspectives. And it’s up to you to decide if you are really against corporatocracy or just a fascist in disguise.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah I understood what its really about when I read hacker news comments.

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• kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Another angle is that this is Newscorp pushing the Labor govt for this to consolidate the news delivery and away from the ad-bypassing social media platforms.

  But it’s mostly just a test to see if people will bend over or if this is even enforceable long term.

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• Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Bans only work in paper. In practice they’re just making it slightly harder. If there’s an obstacle there’s also way around it.

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• MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why does this post have likes ? This should be disliked to hell just because the OP thinks it’s a good thing.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ok, I removed my initial comment about liking it. It was before I understood the real reasons for it.

    Its easy to fall victim to this actually. A change in society seems good on the surface, until you get why they are doing it.

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    • cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also like who the hell decides what I should like(upvote in this case) or dislike?

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