lemmit.online

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨StellarExtract@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨home@lemmy.zip⁩

Hi, I’ve noticed that bot@lemmit.online has been banned.
Since that account posts all of the content on that instance, this is essentially equivalent to defederating from lemmit.online.
I realize that not everybody likes lemmit.online since it is all just reposts from Reddit, but it seems like it would be preferable to just put it on the default block list instead of banning the content entirely for all users. I personally like being able to read content from Reddit here without having to give Reddit my traffic.
Would it be possible to unban?

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Demigodrick@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Hey, so i banned it for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it was mainly unmoderated and was causing a lot of mod reports we had to resolve under various spam and wrong community reports. There was sometimes a fair bit of porn it was reposting iirc too, which causes a fair few issues especially if it was reposting copyrighted material.

Secondly, it was taking up a lot of space. It had something like 1.5 million posts at the time I banned it. It was causing the user page to fail to load for admins because of just how big the search queries were becoming in the database. It wasn’t manageable anymore.

Thirdly it was only very infrequently upvoted/interacted with locally, to the point it went weeks without interaction where we stored tens of thousands of posts and subsequent thumbnails for no apparent reason.

We don’t have unlimited budget and storage is our biggest risk factor to cost, so ultimately we have to be pragmatic about hosting that content. We don’t have the budget of some of the larger servers unfortunately.

Hope that helps 😊

@MagicShel@lemmy.zip @frongt@lemmy.zip @Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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- frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Thank you!
  
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- StellarExtract@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  No worries, I get that. Thanks for replying
  
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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
So that’s where all the porn went!

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MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Maybe it’s different now, but two years ago it was just an echo chamber. No one responded to the posts because they weren’t responding to an actual person. You can’t tell people who the asshole is or answer their weird sex questions.

I never saw any point and blocked that account and whole server. It’s just noise and a waste of bandwidth.

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- frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Valid, but shouldn’t that be the choice of the user? I don’t see it because I don’t browse all, and if you browse all you have to apply some filters because you will get all.
  
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  - MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    It’s fine to be up to the user. But it’s also fine to say it’s just a spam account and block it to save bandwidth. Easy for me to say, of course, since I’m already not seeing the content.
    
    The cool thing about the fediverse is that no one really controls the whole thing, so I give a lot of deference to folks who want to run things their own way. Anyone with a strong option that it needs to be done differently can stand up their own instance pretty easily.
    
    Or to summarize, you have a point but that doesn’t oblige the server to be run that way.
    
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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Serious comment: why would the bot get banned instead of people just using the user/instance filter if they didn’t like it? This seems like blowing up a burger king because a friend said they’d rather not eat there.

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- DrDystopia@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Because the admin has to host all that content, which I imagine contains 0.01% interesting stuff for less than 1% of the users.
  
  Last time I ran a Lemmy instance I used like 300GB in a few weeks and that was just by firehosing ALL Lemmy posts. Storage gets bloated fast unless the admin actively implements hacks, like not caching media content. But that kind of defeats the purpose of federation IMO.
  
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  - Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    That’s quitter talk.
    
    Seriously though, thanks for the insight. I still like having the content, but your points make total sense.
    
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