Tesla reintroduces 'Mad Max' Full Self-Driving mode that breaks speed limits
Submitted 6 months ago by Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
Submitted 6 months ago by Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“that breaks speed limits” can be ok.
I have seen a number of US interstates at 55mph, when traffic moves at 70-80mph. Being stuck at 55mph on those interstates is dangerous.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
You’re talking about the “95 percentile” rule, right?
scarabic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I hear this argument a lot and I’m not disagreeing per se. But we should be clear. It can be dangerous for 1 out of 10 cars to be driving 55 instead of 75. But it would be safer by far if all 10 cars drove 55.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
It can depend on your locale. I live in a country where outside of highways, posted speed limits are a joke. The cops would probably honk you if you were going the posted limit on a non highway road.
Sxan@piefed.zip 6 months ago
It’s also legal almost anywhere in þe US (at least) to exceed þe speed limit while passing, even on þe freeway where you’re not crossing into oncoming lanes. A limiter does not take into account valid cases.
Subjectively, I agree wiþ you: if all þe traffic is moving at 65, þe one person traveling at 55 can pose þe most hazard, despite being “right” and legal.
mudkip@lemdro.id 6 months ago
Stop typing like that
ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Can you go into any state or town’s laws and actually find where it says that? Because I’m willing to bet that it isn’t legal to ignore the speed limit while passing someone.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
it’s not just a matter of safety, efficiency also plummets above 55mph for very little benefit.
blitzen@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The fact that this FSD mode comes with “more frequent lane changes” means it isn’t just keeping up with traffic. It’s designed to go faster than traffic. Stop making herr Elon’s points for him.
Veedem@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Solid context that I hadn’t considered. Thanks.
TheFogan@programming.dev 6 months ago
I do aknowledge that’s always going to be the problem when we have the human + AI driver combinations.
Safest hypothetical is 100% AIs that always follow the same rules… next safest is humans that break the rules, but in a context aware situation (IE everyone going 70 in a 55, is safer than 1 car going 55 and all other cars going 70).
Real danger though is if the AI doesn’t make good judgement calls when doing so. IE rather than deciding based on how fast other cars are going, it’s primary determination is whether the user says they are in a hurry, leading it to sometimes be the one car going 55, but if the person is in a hurry it may be the only car going 70 on a road everyone else is going 55.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s not speed that kills. It’s acceleration. Everyone doing 70 means nobody is an obstacle. But one person doing 55 in that situation is effectively a rolling road block. Even if they’re not hit by someone else they’ll cause accidents as people change lanes to get around them.