cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37266403
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Reality Is Ruining the Humanoid Robot Hype: The obstacles to scaling up humanoids that nobody is talking about
Submitted 6 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://spectrum.ieee.org/humanoid-robot-scaling
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SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
yep. and if we have fewer resources, why not squander them by trying to cram all the electronics, batteries, motors and other shit into an upright biped frame. because wheels was a fad and centering the mass close to the ground just makes too much sense.
goatinspace@feddit.org 6 months ago
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It is always cheaper to use human labor, where a humanoid form is best suited to do it. Automation is best implemented in situations where the human form doesn’t work best.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
always
Currently
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Yeah, no…“always”. Technology like humanoid robots, is never going to get cheap enough to replace low-paid manual labor. That’s a marketing lie that tech CEO’s like to use, in order to drum up more investment capital.
Considering that humanoid labor often works in tandem with actual automation…the idea of robots using machines to accomplish tasks that a human could just as easily do, with far less overhead…makes no sense.
The only way automation is effective, is when it exceeds the limitations of what the human body can accomplish. Designing it with the same basic limitations doesn’t improve on anything.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 6 months ago
Anyone who's a fan of mecha anime or games already knew this. The human body is a comedy of errors masquerading as a marvel of bioengineering. We're just fish who forgot how to swim and learned how about economics.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
We’re not exactly great at economics too…
pirat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve figured out the swimming again, but I still don’t fully understand economics…
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 months ago
No one does and if they say they do they’re lying
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
But in the short to medium term, there are much more reliable, efficient, and cost-effective platforms that can take over in these situations: robots with arms, but with wheels instead of legs.
I never understood why the first generation of robots can’t just be on wheels. Even if it needs to go up and down stairs often, it’s still easier to have legs just for stairs and resort to wheels all other times.
The article also thinks battery life is an issue. IMO too many things have batteries, why can’t it just rely on a power cord. Sure that won’t work in some situations, but damn it it can fold my laundry.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean, we’re hundreds if not thousands of iterations into robotics. Hell, we’ve probably had tens if not hundreds of attempts to create humanoid robots.
This is just the current iteration of humanoid robots getting beaten up for not delivering on its promises.
krunklom@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I do t understand why we can’t genetically engineer animals to have wheels. Give me a fucking cheetah with wheels instead of legs please.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
AA5B@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Think of it like grandma. She can fold your underwear for you but needs to go sit down every half hour
Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes, more specialized robots for now. When it’s harder to build for a human to do the job, build for a robot to do the job.
At some point in the future, it makes sense to combine the features of different types of robots into one form that can step in to human jobs
underline960@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Can it hurry up and ruin the AI hype, too?
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why do we even want humanoid robots?
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Because remaking the world to suit what robots we can make is more work.
orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
rich people want chattel slaves but haven’t been able to do much better than prison labor and outsourced sub-minimum wages. Humanoid robots would be a step closer than what we currently have
HubertManne@piefed.social 6 months ago
outside of sex robots I don't see any reason. I always though robosimian made a lot of sense. I think all its limbs were grasp and movement capable so it could stand or run on all fours or climb or whatever but its been awhile since I saw it. I assume if done nowadays it could be that much more versatile.
Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
The same thing that made phones bigger, bandwidth wider, and probably one of the biggest uses of AI.
Horny people want sex without other people. In this case, sexbots.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Isn’t that what masturbation is for?