Australia’s gun lobby says it’s ‘winning’ the fight against firearm control as numbers surge

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• pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Number of firearms is not a useful number. The ban had an exemption for bolt-actions used for farming.

  When grandma has a handgun for catching the bus, there’s a problem.

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Australian gun lobby is comparatively the size of the NRA. The only reason we don’t hear as much is because culturally they have much higher hill to climb.

    Realistically though the increased ownership are unlikely to be all farmers. And that’s a massive concern. Because the kind of person who wants a gun in Australia is generally the kind of person who shouldn’t have one.

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• Dimand@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This article has some huge issues.

  As mentioned already, the type of gun matters a lot. Not mention of how many are semi auto, but I am guessing it won’t be many.

  Also no accounting for population growth over the last 30 years as a factor in total gun numbers.

  This paragraph was absolutely journalistic garbage.

  “NSW firearm registry data shows that in Sydney there are more than 70 individuals who own more than 100 firearms, including one person who owns 385 guns. The register notes that this is not a collector or a dealer.”

  Clearly this is a hobby/interest and the person is a collector with too much time and money (good for them I guess). What they don’t have is a “collectors” licence that effectively means they cannot ever use their guns. A licenced collector will usually have inoperable firearms on display (think museum).

  All that said, the SSAA and others do have a higher than normal concentration of right wing nuts that continuously lobby the government to weaken our excellent (imo) gun laws. It’s why I stopped giving them any of my money.

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  • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As mentioned already, the type of gun matters a lot. Not mention of how many are semi auto, but I am guessing it won’t be many.

    As far as I’m aware, semi-auto guns are illegal to own, aren’t they?

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    • Dimand@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can get them with the right licence. It’s only for professional hunters I believe but I have never looked into details. They are rightfully much harder to get than a typical class A/B licence.

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• Nath@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m not really sure what “winning” in this picture is. I wasn’t aware there was a contest going on about this topic. I remember having a discussion with someone on this site a few months about gun control, my perspective mostly boiled down to “I don’t think about guns much”. I do remember being surprised that even after the laws coming into WA that it was still going to be possible to have handguns in suburbia - I thought they needed to be kept at the shooting club.

  In May a group of national shooting bodies met in the Australian capital to discuss how best to respond to what they describe as a “growing attack” on firearm users, and the need for a unified position. The group met again in late July.

  The lobby is alarmed especially by new firearms laws introduced in Western Australia, which have – among other measures – limited the number of guns that an individual licence holder can own.

  If five guns isn’t enough for you in suburbia (rural people can have more), I’m not really sure you’re the sort of person I want to see licensed to own firearms in the first place.

  “Politicians are going to pay attention because politicians respect numbers, and the last thing they want to do is to irritate big blocks of people.”

  Yeah - the number of firearms owners is totally dwarfed by the majority of people who are happy that guns/shootings aren’t an everyday thing in Australia. You want to see a block of irritated people, start changing this fact.

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  • PeterLG@theblower.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    @Nath When I lived on a property out bush, we had a rifle and two shotguns (one newish, one legacy). They served us well. I learned to shoot the rifle at home, the shotgun at the old man's gun club. Loved the old side-by-side shotty.

    When I moved to the big smoke, I had zero interest in having any sort of firearm. In my security job, I had to carry a pistol and it occasionally went home with me between shifts; I hated having it there, even though it was secure.

    There's a place for firearms, and it's not in a city or town.

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    • Dimand@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You took it home?!? And that is the done thing? Do they pay you to install a handgun safe??? Pistols are scary, it’s too easy to change your line of fire.

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  • Dimand@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean most families don’t need more than one car, but some people like to buy lots of them.

    I grew up rural and it was very rare to see a farm with more than five guns, most would never “need” more than two. If someone registers and properly stores a large collection through legal channels then I have trouble taking issue with it regardless of their location. Most rifle ranges are in or near cities and even if you were aiming for a single arm per modern calibre, you are talking about dozens of guns.

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• CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Remember when when the NRA promised $20m in political donations to OneNation if they promised to oppose Australian gun control? What do you think with all that cash?

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  • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    remember when it was found the NRA was backed by Russia?

    This is just another example of Russian aggression against the democratic west

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    • guillem@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not gonna deny foreign meddling exists but don’t underestimate the “democratic West”'s ability to shoot itself in the foot. Russia (or whoever) might encourage the errors its perceived foes make, but it’s not forcing anyone to commit those errors in the first place.

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• Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We had an attempted home invasion in our street in the wee hours of Saturday morning.

  The good news is that they didn’t get inside; The other good news is that everyone in the street has cameras and we all have extensive footage of the car and the individuals.

  The bad news is that the car we saw on the cameras was stolen and the police can’t do anything due to lack of evidence.

  In answer to the question that every Fascist is asking; they were caucasian adult males.

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