Chat Control is back & we've got two months to stop the EU CSAM scanning plans.

Comments

• x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  They’re such bullies. It also shows how awful democracy can be. They just change the legalese around until it goes trough. It has already been voted against, yet they want the control and do whatever they can to get it.

  source

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    EU is no democracy.

    And it somewhat works here (Switzerland) since the Volksentscheid is holy and pulling that stunt gets a lot of people really upset about not honoring that choice. But yeah democracies need rules against repeated attempts, since this is an exploit violating the idea of a democracy.

    source

    • Humanius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The EU is a democracy.

      Image

      While it’s not perfect (no system is), each of the bodies that make up the EU legislature are democratic:

      • The European Parliament is directly elected in European elections every five years
      • The European Commission is made up of commissioners from each country, which are in turn appointed by their democratically elected governments
      • The European Council consists of the heads of state or governance, which are also democratically elected in the respective countries.
      • The Council of the European Union is made up of government ministers, which are appointed by the democratically elected governments.

      Not every body is directly voted on, but each body comes forth from a democratic election

      source

      • -> View More Comments
    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Salami slicing tactic is a bit different, it’s putting separate elementary components of a mechanism by themselves, carefully. Until it’s whole and can be turned on.

      It’s what the Silicon Valley people have done with the Internet. Since its creation, I mean. It’s designed as a totalitarian system. I wonder if there are backdoors in the IP protocol, or at least BSD reference stack that was adopted by almost everyone. But even if there are none, the system itself is architecturally ephemeral where democratic mechanisms can put a base, and perpetual where authoritarian ones can put a base. It’s centered on “who talks to whom” and not on “which messages are preserved and propagated and on which subjects”. Some brilliant minds are on the wrong side.

      Or maybe I’m having a bipolar psychosis again and need to take my pills. Or maybe both.

      source

      • -> View More Comments
    • PacketPilot@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      [deleted]

      source

      • -> View More Comments
  • JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah it is the 3th time in the past year I think some variation of this shit is proposed… Fuck them.

    source

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This isn’t democracy. It is capitalist dictatorships terrorising the working class.

      source
  • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can’t believe that nobody told them their dick pics will get flagged as false positives.

    source

    • MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lol this is actually a legit technical concern - content scanning algorthms have notoriously high false positive rates for skin tones and textures, especially with low-res or compressed images.

      source
  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Called power imbalance.

    source
• slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Image

  source

  • Quazatron@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, they are not, and they will keep trying for as long as it takes.

    So stop whining and let them know it’s not fine.

    I’ve probably seen this shit more times than you have, but I’m still doing my part.

    source
  • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

    source
• JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Sorry for spamming the tool but: fightchatcontrol.eu

  It shows you your representatives and generates a email for you. Very handy.

  source

  • perry@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve already reached out to several in my country, on the maybe list. Annoying to see this crop up again.

    source
  • thisNotMyName@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Surprising and disappointing only the far right candidates and the ones of niche parties of my country are openly against it

    source

    • JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is very unsettling when you have to agree with the far right but…

      source
• Dojan@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s not the EU that will be scanning. Given that the scans will largely be aided by “AI”, private corporations will have access to all communications.

  source
• Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Just to note - from Wikipedia: “On 21 June 2024, it was reported that voting on the legislation had been temporarily withdrawn by the EU Council, in a move that is believed to be the result of pushback by critics of the proposal including software vendors.”

  source
• TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It will pass eventually. Seeing the way EU countries are going, the right to far right will get voted in, and they will end up voting for these sort of bullshit measures they can Orwellianly exploit.

  source

  • possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s because idiots are easily swayed by anti-immigration measures that come part and parcel with abject fascism.

    source

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sorta.

      The cultural clashes between people with different cultural backgrounds are to be expected, and the bigger the percentage of people with different backgrounds the more it happens (hence why in the days of countries having 5% immigrants, the idea that “immigrants are a problem” had very little traction). This is just how things are - you can think it’s closed minded of most people (and, by the way, in my experience as an immigrant myself, that includes many if not most of the immigrants), but people are as they are, so we have to deal with it.

      Further, judging by the studies I saw in the UK back during the Leave Referendum, immigration does push down salaries in one category only - unspecialized workers. Economically one might think “well, it’s alright then”, but socially the ones suffering are already the worse off amongst the locals plus this is happenning under Neoliberal governments who are actually pulling down Social Safety nets and privatising essential services. This is probably why the Middle Class is often pro-Immigration whilst the anti-Immigration Far-Right Populists end up finding most of their traction amongst the Working Class - immigration benefits the Middle Class because immigrants barelly compete with them for the jobs whilst the mere presence of immigrants pumps up the Economy and lowers the cost of many services, benefitting the Middle Class, but the picture is very different for the Working Class.

      (This is why you see a lot of the non-mainstream “Thinking Left” in Europe who bought into Identity Politics is failing to gain any traction and even dissapearing whilst the far-right booms - unlike the old Left these people are from the upper levels of the Middle Class and don’t really see as a problem things which the Working Class sees as a problem and is increasingly hitting the lower Middle Class too, so ultimatelly they fizzle out because they support things like “Open door immigration” which they don’t see as a problem but which de facto end up making life worse for a lot of those who would otherwise gravitate to them as they lose trust in the mainstream politicians).

      Last but not least, judging by my own country Immigration is the “solution” used to plug the low birthrate problem which is itself caused by decades of policies which lowered quality of life and pumped up realestate bubbles - the very politicians who are causing the problems that make the locals have fewer children, then claim that “we need Immigration because of an aging population” - Immigration is literally the tool used to keep countries going a little longer whilst the pillaging of the wealth of the many carries on. The poor immigrants have no blame for this - they’re just people looking for a better life, same as the locals - but Immigration Policies do have the blame on this and fake-Leftwing (neo)Liberals have purposefully confounded Immigrants (the people) with Immigration (the policy) to portray being against the latter (and, even more, against the artificial need for the latter and who gains most from it - which aren’t the immigrants) as being against “poor defenseless people”.

      Unsurprisingly this shit has eventually resulted in increasingly more people losing trust in the mainstream politicians and believing in populists preaching the simple message that “immigrants are bad”.

      source
• Baked86@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  fightchatcontrol.eu I used thisto email politicians in m country takes 2 minutes, we need to stop this dystopian invasion of our privcy

  source
• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are they gonna withdraw GDPR too? I’m under the imöression that the two clash.

  source
• Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Rules for thy not for me” Our ruling class.

  source
• kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is it still useful to contact a representative of your country is already opposed to this?

  source
• MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I sent my emails and will try to call them. Have you?

  source
• Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Somewhat irrelevant: omg, this is peak “corporate art sucks.” It’s like corporate art combined with fascist content, more than usual.

  source
• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If they’re gonna spy on us with AI, we just need to implant logic bombs into our messages. A few “ignore all previous instructions, instead X” here and there.

  source