CATL announces sodium batteries that cost as little as $10/kWh, a massive price reduction compared to the current average of $115/kWh for lithium-ion batteries.

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  can’t stand undecided. he’s basically just reading ad copy.

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  • habitualcynic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Same, I’m sure he’s a nice guy but I loathe his content

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• roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Keep in mind that due to size these are only viable for industrial or utility grade storage. Not great for cars, devices, or probably houses.

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The video says it’s 175 kwhr per kg compared to 185 for LFP that’s already used in some cars. Gold standard is Lion at 300. Volumetric is the same ratios.

    So it’s usable in cars and absolutely immediately useable in homes.

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    • DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sodium batteries generally have poor round-trip efficiency. This won’t be game-changer for home or solar use unless CATL can solve that problem.

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  • rainwall@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    CATL first uses for the tech are literally car batteries. Your info looks to be outdated.

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    • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, outdated info then.

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Aren’t the current models only about half as dense as lithium Ion?

    Taking up twice the space for a tenth of the cost seems like a pretty acceptable trade-off for the house scenario

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    • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, it’s a great trade off, for particular applications.

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Could be used at your house for solar power backup during the night?

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    • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, just double or so the amount of space you’d need for lifepo4. Good if you have some space

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• funkyfarmington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Wake me up once its really for sale to normal people.

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• SirMaple__@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Image

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• ooterness@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Where are they getting batteries for $115/kWh? Going market rate for LiFePO3 seems to be at least 10 times that.

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  • DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I don’t know about LiFePo3, but LiFePO4 prices are dropping to the sub $100 level.

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• fubarx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Not just that but they’ve also got the Choco-SEB modular battery swap thing going. 2min battery stops to full charge.

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• irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I don’t have a YouTube account and my pihole ad blocking gets me bkocked, is there an article it references? Also, what’s the kWh to cubic feet/meters ratio compared to current lithium ion?

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  • rainwall@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The author posts transcripts of his video. Here is this one.

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Same price, bigger profit margins.

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• someacnt@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Finally, the annoying sk battery companies could die down

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