What kind of argument is that? Winston Churchill was a genocidal Tory who was dragged kicking and screaming out of power ince the war was over
US envoy to Israel taunts Keir Starmer and likens Gaza assault to Dresden bombing
Submitted 2 days ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/08/huckabee-starmer-gaza-dresden
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tetris11@feddit.uk 2 days ago
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Considering the direction the US is headed.
Overtly repeating many of the ideas and actions of the 1930 fascist government.
Not really sure leaders of such governments should be considered to have much value in such ideas.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
That’s right up there with some of the most stupidest things I’ve ever heard.
Maybe pick somebody from the same time period.
Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 2 days ago
" it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal."
- Henry Kissinger
tetris11@feddit.uk 1 day ago
what did he actually mean by that
Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Ask Gadaffi, Noriega, Suharto, Mubarak, Diem, Hussein or any number of leaders who made the mistake of trusting the US.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 day ago
www.snopes.com/…/henry-kissinger-america-quote/
It’s misquoted. The full quote is warning Nixon that if America doesn’t protect their latest fascist dictator in Vietnam other “anti-communist” dictators won’t be as eager to ally with them.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
And The Union would’ve lost the American Civil War if Trump was president. Your point is?
echodot@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Of course trump would have been on the side of the South. So the union would have probably won the war even more easily if they were going up against him as chief decision maker.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I don’t like Starmer very much, but that’s a utterly stupid and incredibly ignorant thing to say. Especially from the US ambassador.
The UK was under attack by a hostile force who were literally bombing the country. A military response was inevitable, the current prime minister would have had very little effect on that. One way or the other there was going to be a war, victory for that war was largely down to experience military commanders and not the prime minister. I’m fairly sure that if we reran history and kept everything else the same except had Starmer as prime minister we would have still won the war.
In reality we might have done slightly better because Churchill was incredibly uncompromising and inflexible. A better relationship with Eisenhower might have actually helped slightly. Although it probably would have not made a huge difference.
Naich@lemmings.world 2 days ago
It’s a war crime as well then.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The Same Starmer who is increasing military funding, as well as support for Ukraine?
The same Starmer who is signing defence pacts with allies like the Nordic countries, Germany, and others?
The same Starmer who appears keen to expand various naval projects, as well as the GCAP, to like-minded allies like Canada and Australia?
The Same Starmer who has increased resources towards GCAP (UK, Italy, and Japan’s joint 6th gen jet fighter project, which is significantly further ahead than the US’s and France/Germany/Spain’s 6th gen fighter projects)?
The same Starmer who’s overseen the Royal Navy successfully prevent attacks from Houthi terror groups attacking and boarding civilian ships bound for Europe?
The same Starmer who, after Iran threatened to attack UK bases, warned them not to, and they immediately backed down?
Starmer and his team actually seems pretty competent on defence.
This is just dumb posturing from a deranged Republican.