Submitted 3 weeks ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to technology@lemmy.world
“This step is necessary to prove I’m not a bot,” wrote the bot as it passed an anti-AI screening step.
Meanwhile my ass is in tears every time I have to do a fucking “click all the squares that show a motorcycle” prompt. Maybe I should just join the bots.
Ooh, sorry, you missed the single pixel on the corner of the adjacent tile, FAIL
You didn’t miss it the second time, ALSO FAIL
Well now you can just have a bot do that for you
LLM is a model/algorithm and the robot is an automatic machine. LLM is not a robot. All is ok.
Oh. Well, I was worried for a bit but you’ve put my heart at ease.
Now that we’ve made our problems go away by redefining them, I’m ready to tackle cancer, a natural body resource management issue.
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Yes. Exactly this. No way for a bot to make an API call to a LLM and get back a solution formatted in JSON that it could easily parse for the solution. Could never happen.
There was a really interesting video (can’t remember the title) that went into Google’s captcha specifically, and found that it really isn’t designed to detect bots. It’s designed to detect a unique digital fingerprint that can be used by advertisers.
So, you can use a really simple mouse script to click the checkbox automatically with no issue, but as soon as you use a VPN you get served with the photo games. It doesn’t care if you’re a robot, it cares if you’re a valuable ad target.
This video is excellent On another note The internet is becoming a nightmare I need to escape ESCAPE AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Prowlarr has had a thing to do this for a good while now. No AI needed.
Cloudflare's turnstile slowly ramps up a different assortment of challenges while not tracking your mouse movement or cross-site activity.
If a bot can find all images with crosswalks in grainy photos faster than we can, surely it can check a box as well. Bots definitely can check a box, and they can even mimic the erratic path of human mouse movement while doing so. For Turnstile, the actual act of checking a box isn’t important, it’s the background data we’re analyzing while the box is checked that matters. We find and stop bots by running a series of in-browser tests, checking browser characteristics, native browser APIs, and asking the browser to pass lightweight tests (ex: proof-of-work tests, proof-of-space tests) to prove that it’s an actual browser.
Wow, agents built to monitor and reflect human behaviour, accurately model and reproduce human behaviour.
This is what is what shits me off when people complain “Oh this AI isn’t real AI” or “This isn’t consciousness” The limiting factor is is the training data. Humans have just had a few more million years of training data passed on through genetics. It’s replication and fakery all the way down. If this is you, if you fucking need the reassurance that you are better at being fucking conscious compare to a machine fuck the fuck right off and go do something amazing with it then. Compose something. Create something. Feel the wind in your hair and the sand at your feet. Fuck off, we’re all dirt.
What does being able to fill a captcha have to do with consciousness? “Wow the ai being good at this pattern matching task surely is proof of it being humanlike because humans are also good at pattern matching!” Is such a stretch, dude.
… That’s a lot of expletives for anyone who might have a differing opinion about the nature of consciousness or reality.
Noted.
I calmed down and started searching for some recommendations to counter this view.
Although at the moment I still think The Chinese Room argument doesn’t prove what Searle thinks it does.
Probably because it accessed it through a user’s browser/connection which until that point hadn’t been flagged as a bit and had consistently shown signs of human use.
Iceblade02@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Meanwhile google slapped me with nine captchas to fill out a form like wtf?
FinalRemix@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lemme guess… traffic lights, too many motorcycles, and buses? There was something “wrong” with your cookies cache or IP. Google just straight fucks with you if it sees network traffic it doesn’t like.
arin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Google hates non chromium browsers
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Hold on, you gotta wait for another picture of a bus to load. Nevermind that it now inexplicably takes 10 seconds to load the fucking picture”
kewjo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
i never know what’s expected on those type of captcha. if the handle bars of a bike go into an adjacent box and are 99% covered by a hand does that count? what do you do when you have a blurry image full of jpg artifacts and are asked to identify if it contains a fire hydrant. I’m pretty sure it usually classifies me as a bot for being too exact since I’m asked follow ups for a few minutes until i give up and just close the tab out of annoyance.
xylight@fedi.phtn.app 3 weeks ago
Something I find really funny is that my residential IP gets flagged 80x more often than any VPN’s IPs I’ve tried.
Although as soon as I see “Please try again” on a captcha, I leave the site. I got stuck on one for like 10 minutes before I finally gave up
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Also Anubis means I can’t access websites that use it because I run noscript and Nepenthes breaks my self-hosted search engine
Guys, I think all those things to “verify if you’re humans” are hmm… doing something else ?