Submitted 1 year ago by BettyWhiteInHD@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world
Honestly feels like there are just a ton of anti-lgbt people jumping at the chance to hate on ada, this is quite a non-issue.
If people want to see and interact with porn then they can simply make an account on a porn server, that’s a good idea even regardless of all this.
I don’t understand the insistence that porn instances have to be federated with everyone else, it’s equally as strange as pornhub having a “share to facebook” button.
My main account is on lemmynsfw, I don’t use it for porn. We are not the same.
I feel the need to point out, there is porn on both instances. Just more on lemmynsfw.
When using reddit we can access everything under one account. That is the point. If each instance need each account then there is no use. I should be able to open one account and access everything. If people are segregated into multiple instance and no connection between them then there is no use.
I should be able to open one account and access everything.
This seems like a misunderstanding of how Fediverse works. It’s about voluntary association between instance owners. If you don’t like the decisions made by your instance owner, then the point of Fediverse is that you can either find an instance that thinks like you do, or make your own. It’s not about forcing owners to associate with other instances they dislike, even if you disagree with the reasoning.
There’s a bit of downside in that Lemmy doesn’t let you migrate accounts at this time, but it’s basically brand-new open source software. Whether you meant to or not, you signed up to be a user for an incomplete experience.
Welcome to the fediverse! Instance admins are under obligation to federate with every other instance possible, and are also under no obligation to do everything in their power to recapture the reddit experience.
Well it’s a good thing there’s already a place where you can do that!
The blahaj admin fucked up, and rather than admitting they fucked up, they decided to drag the issue into the public sphere and infer the other instance supports CSAM. And don’t give me any bullshit about how that’s not really what they are doing, because that’s exactly how they worded their post. I’m guessing they did it because they wanted to create drama and play the victim, but whatever the reason, everyone else has every right to criticize them for their actions. What they did was pretty fucking shitty, and they should be ashamed of themselves.
Admin from LemmyNSFW here, not the one that posted but an admin nonetheless.
I’m not really down with this being presented as drama as some are trying to, it’s unfortunate the way it played out but overall its their choice to defederate. We actively encourage other instances who forbid pornography to defederate from us. Lemmy.ml, sopuli, etc etc we are totally fine with, we have no malice or hate towards them because thats their choice and their reasons and concerns for doing so are more than legitimate especially with how limited lemmy is right now and the locations that they host their site at. We have open discussions with other instance admins and welcome discussions of their potential concerns, it’s just we didn’t really know what the concerns were beyond “this looks wrong because it looks wrong delete it” which made it extremely frustrating to try to figure out concisely what the problem was so we could address it.
My only issue is it being presented as if we are fine with CSAM, when we aren’t and to be accused of that is extremely serious.
Let me guess: pornography of legal adults was being considered CSAM? Because 20 year olds make some prudes self-conscious. I got banned from a reddit sub for pointing out that Belle Delphine is 23 years old because a woman wanted to divorce her husband for watcher Belle porn, because she is a child, according to the wife. Yea these people exist.
I just wish I had a way to block your entire instance and all your users and this wouldn’t be a problem. I agree with the accusations and want nothing to do with you and your weird porn shit.
I know it may seem like empty platitudes, but I want to make it clear for anyone reading this that our entire team agrees with more native ways in lemmy to block our instance as well as ways for instances to limit our content from federating into the all page. The fact that there is a lack of distinction between NSFW and pornographic content is extremely problematic as well, and ideally long term lemmy will receive content warnings like other activitypub platforms.
Porn isn’t for everyone, but people are going to seek it out regardless. A space such as lemmyNSFW needs to exist to allow the people who seek such content out to be able to do so in a safe and controlled environment that focuses consent as a key principle. And in line with having the key princple being consent, making sure people who do not want to see content from our instance are able to block such content with ease is a no brainer.
Our team has also taken a step back and looked to what critiques there are in regard to our instance, as well as preemptively engaging with other instance admins as well. The conversations being had are important, and we are actively figuring out how to best navigate them.
Switch to lemmy.blajah.zone and you’ll never see them again.
The blahaj admin defederating is totally fair, and it’s the whole point of the fediverse. The dragging the issue into the public view to cover up their own mistaken impression is absolutely silly. The public attack in the form of implication that the other admin is supporting CSAM is sickening. This person comes across as the type to manufacture drama to make themselves seem like a victim. Were I an instance admin, they would be exactly the kind of person I would want to defederate from, as nothing good comes from association with people who like to play victim for attention.
Sounds like they were trying to find a reason to defederate.
Do they have to block lemmy.world entirely, or can’t they just block the community?
It’s more dramatic to block a whole instance though, isn’t it?
everyone hates lemmynsfw
Ye, they can honestly fuck off. I myself have that account on that instance and no illegal porn is present
CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 year ago
So blahaj.zone defederated a whole instance because one community on lemmynsfw has pictures of (verified) adults that don’t look adult enough? That seems… extreme, and rather insulting to the women whose bodies/appearances are supposedly too close to actual children to be worthy of attraction. Glad that’s not my instance, though to each their own.
samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
I didn’t notice that blahaj defederated from us so much.