Ethical frameworks are detrimental to Scientific Study because Science is by nature unethical.

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• tkk13909@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And scientific study is unethical… How?

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  • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Scientific study is by nature unethical because one must do unethical things in it’s pursuit. We have ethical frameworks around Scientific Study for a reason, and it isn’t because it was doing fine without those frameworks.

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    • Nefara@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah yes, everyone knows how famously unethical astronomers are, they should respect the privacy and consent of supernovas. Filthy perverts peeping on those innocent stars!

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• Nefara@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why do you think that asking questions, making a hypothesis, testing that hypothesis and writing down the results is unethical?

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  • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why do you think the context of the testing doesn’t matter?

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    • Nefara@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You said “science”, not any specific type or category of study, so if you mean a specific school of science is unethical you should make that distinction.

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• Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  this is like the shit i would say when i was 12, i am assuming the same about you

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  • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When you assume you make an ass out of you and me.

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• MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is some Josef Mengele type of shit. Hope you like the tropical sun

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• Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Found the psychopathic scientist!

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  • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Have you ever asked a Scientist how they feel about the impacts of ethical frameworks on their study?

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  • MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t excuse a Nazi with mental disorders. Who do you think a person like this would choose to be unethical with? his parents? No probably the people he hates.

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    • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is incredibly ignorant, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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• JASN_DE@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To the pure science itself yes, but not to the larger environment resp. individuals. That’s why there are usually checks in place.

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  • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How can we have a proper double blind study if we are forced to tell the participants information that could impact the results of the study in order to gain informed consent?

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    • JASN_DE@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That does not invalidate a double-blind study.

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• Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wut

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  • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is the sentence hard to understand?

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    • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You just lumped all of “science” together. Even the science of documenting birdsong?

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    • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not hard to understand, despite being badly formulated, it’s just very questionable.

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    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      its just hard to understand how something so stupid can be said

      The Wiki page defines ETHICS as

      Ethics is the philosophical study of moral phenomena. Also called moral philosophy, it investigates normative questions about what people ought to do or which behavior is morally right.

      What you are doing is anthropomorphizing science. When science is a system of understanding nature.

      And without ethics in science, we get nightmare bastardization of science.

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