US talent is insufficiently motivated to work in Arizona for peanuts. Particularly not when there are plenty of other, better paying tech companies in the state.
TSMC delays US chip fab opening, says US talent is insufficient
Submitted 1 year ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 year ago
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Or anywhere else in said country, especially when there still isn’t free and universal health care (unlike even TSMC’s home country of Taiwan!)
pacoboyd@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Make sure to read the article. It’s about building the plant, not staffing it after. Apparently skilled construction workers for these types of plants are only where these plants are located currently (ex Taiwan for example). Not too surprising there are a limited number of skilled workers like this and they live where the work is.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I would do that.
FOR MONEY.
CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 1 year ago
Fuck you.
Pay me.
ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 year ago
what do you know about chip manufacturing?
instamat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The article is about delays in building the fab itself, not actual employees working there
ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It makes no sense to open a fab in the US.
MaybeItWorks@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Um, hard disagree. It makes a lot of sense if we don’t want to entirely be dependent on China for silicon production. Gets a little fuzzy because this is a foreign company, but the plant is still on US soil. We need to make semi-conductors in the US or we can never maintain independence from China. Our dependency on China still may be too far gone, but this is at least an attempt to remain independent from arguably our largest world adversary. Remember how the world’s hardware supply chain slowed to a molasses pace because of COVID? That’s why it’s smart to build in the US.
LetMeEatCake@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’d be surprised at how many fabs there are in the US.
- TI has something like a half dozen to a dozen, predominantly in Texas
- Intel has more fabs than you can shake a stick at, mostly in Oregon but also Arizona
- Samsung has a fab in Texas
- GlobalFoundries exists in New York and Vermont
- Micron is in Idaho
- Wolfspeed has power electronics fabs in North Carolina and New York
And so on. The US has a lot of fabs. For best countries in the world to build a new fab, the US would rank somewhere between first and third place — and I think there’s a strong argument for the answer being “first place.” Unlike Taiwan and South Korea, US fab jobs and experience are not almost entirely dominated by one or two companies. The US isn’t located in one of the most geopolitically risky parts of the developed world. The US has a huge population and plenty of money to put into fab expansion.
The only issues here are (a) the US has gotten worse and worse at large scale construction projects, and (b) TSMC wants to pay workers like shit and treat them even worse, which doesn’t fly for technically skilled US workers. You can treat US technical workers workers poorly, but not as poorly as in much of Asia, and you definitely cannot do it without paying them very well.
ghariksforge@lemmy.world 1 year ago
yet every device you use comes from TSMC 🤣
Techmaster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why would you open a chip fab in Arizona? Doesn’t it use a lot of water?
Nioxic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Why are people not willing to work(at these lame wages and ‘benefits’)?”
quicksand@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They’ve been trying to poach people from Intel and it isn’t working. Their reputation precedes themselves.
d3Xt3r@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Does anyone else look at “TSMC” and subconsciously think of “Transmeta Crusoe”? I need to keep reminding my brain that’s not what TSMC stands for lol.
HunterBidensLapDog@infosec.pub 1 year ago
Kinda like that amoeba only managing to kill the one kid in Nevada.
SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 1 year ago
As usual, it’s not a shortage of talent, it’s a shortage of talent willing to be exploited.
The article explicitly explains that they “needed” to hire 25 foreign workers to deal with the shortage… after they made 50 local workers quit by cutting pay.
Tosti@feddit.nl 1 year ago
graphite@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“nuh-uh-uh, you didn’t raise my pay”
bdesk@kbin.social 1 year ago
Electricians?
housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 1 year ago
I came on here to say exactly this and you beat me to it.
Blamemeta@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So just the usual importing cheap labor. Fuck corporations and fuck the people who make excuses for their shitty practices