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"You are like little baby! Dead little baby. I see a lot of those too." (Ironlily)

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Submitted ⁨⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨PugJesus@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨historymemes@piefed.social⁩

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  • Sergio@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And here I thought Obstetrix was just the best friend of Asterix the Gaul….

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    • Successful_Try543@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The healthy cousin of Obelix. He mostly eats fruits and vegetables.

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Explanation: Soldiers often see a lot of death.

    … midwives, in past eras, helping women deliver children, saw a lot of fucking death. Before the advent of modern medicine, both children and mothers very commonly died in the process of childbirth. The death rate was ~2% per birth - considering that it was normal to have numerous pregnancies and large families at the time, this could end up with a frighteningly large percentage of women dying in childbirth, with estimates ranging from 10%-30%. And midwives were there all the while, trying their best to save as many as they could with the limited tools and knowledge at their disposal.

    … ‘interestingly’ enough, early in the development of modern medical practice in the 19th century AD, doctors, many of whom considered themselves of the genteel middle class, could end up causing higher mortality rates during childbirth than traditional midwives - by an entire order of magnitude. This was for a number of reasons, including the notion that reminding a ‘gentleman’ to wash his fucking hands (seeing as he’s working with sick people and, potentially, cadavers, all fucking day) was implying that he wasn’t cleanly on his own initiative, harumph harumph; and the usual pigheaded classist and sexist rejections of advice from their ‘inferiors’, including their own patients.

    By ~1900, though, this had dropped to under 1% - lower than traditional midwife practices.

    In modern statistics in developed countries, death in childbirth is closer to 0.02% per birth - and with much smaller families being standard on top of that.

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    • iocase@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The guy who suspected washing would reduce mortality (and did a study proving it) was made a laughingstock and was driven mad by his colleagues refusal to wash their god damn hands.

      He was proven right eventually but I think I would go insane too if I knew it was directly causing my patients to die, and suggesting it as a way to reduce patient mortality made me into a laughingstock.

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    • velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The maternity hospitals they built in the 19th century were often dubbed “Houses of Death” because of the increase in maternal and infant deaths due to to those gentlemanly doctors and their refusal to listen to midwives.

      Such a fascinating chapter of history!!

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      • raman_klogius@ani.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s Vienna hospital iirc. Two maternity wards, one staffed by doctors, the other by midwives. Everyone tried by every means imaginable to avoid being sent to the doctor’s ward because the fatality rate was so horrendous.

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