Over Synology, and looking to build my first home lab. Could use some advice on parts...

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• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly I’d just buy a mini pc for a few hundred bucks, and a 5-6 bay DAS like a terramaster for a few hundred more. Way easier for someone that has never built a pc or a nas.

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  • Elkenders@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah I have a NUC and a QNAP RAID DAS. Works well though the DAS is on the loud side.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can save money on das by getting a 2 drive enclosure. Im not sure if drive enclosure is just marketing for non tech enthusiast das or if there’s a real difference.

    But in practical terms haha storage go brr either way.

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeh a DAS is basically just an enclosure, well most of them. Some do have hardware raid though.

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• thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly, I have the impression your setup is oversized (knowing nothing about what you want to run)

  NAS systems set on idle like 90% of the time unless your are doing really crazy things with de duplication and distributed iscsi for super big volumes, that I have the impression your are not going to do.

  You can probably cut the performance/specs to the half and still being good for the following 10 years and the extra that you will save on electricity too.

  As a comparison I checked this built against your synology and in the multicore setup is x10 more powerful (cpu-monkey.com/…/compare_cpu-intel_celeron_j4025-…)

  Just my two cents

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• lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  planning on running a number of docker containers and a couple of vms.

  Just FYI, you can probably do ALL of that on a $200 Dell Optiplex 7050 SFF.

  Source: my $200 Dell Optiplex 7050 SFF running 3 VMs, 3LXC containers, and 16 docker containers - not including the multiple containers within the Nextcloud AIO “mastercontainer”. All on top of being just one of three Proxmox nodes. Runs an i7-7700 w/ 48GB RAM, there is plenty of overhead to spare.

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• killabeezio@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I just built a NAS not too along ago, so I’ll just say what I would have changed in my build. Maybe it will help you.

  1. Get a server you can manage over something like ipmi or similar. Look at ASRock rack or super micro.
  2. Try and get something with a lot of pci lanes or at least bifurcation. This way you can expand and use more nvmes
  3. Go with nvmes first if you can. Depending on what you go with for a filesystem, will sort of depend how many you should start with.
  4. If you go for 10gbe, don’t use ethernet unless it’s onboard, otherwise go with sfp card and switch. It runs cooler.

  One thing to watch out for. Some of these server motherboards expect the smaller higher rpm fans. This means you may have to fiddle to get the fan curve corrected with normal fans.

  If using something like zfs, you may want to have a bigger raid to start with. Otherwise you can do mirrored vdevs and combine them. But it can be a bit costly since you need 2 drives every time you want to expand and won’t get as much space as say something like z2 (2 parity drives)

  Nvmes will run cooler, longer, and faster. They also take up way less space.

  Make sure you have backups. You could probably use your Synology for this or some old computer parts you have lying around. But if you do use something like trunas, it makes it very easy to backup. This server you can use platter drives.

  16gh of memory is not enough. If you want to run workloads on there and if you do use something like trunas, you want as much memory as you can get for caching.

  Also, just buy used. You can find cheap servers online or just the parts on like eBay or even AliExpress.

  Good luck!

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• DesolateMood@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t know what kind of server you’re running, but if you plan to host any video then you want a dedicated GPU or a cpu with integrated graphics (and even if you’re not, I think it’s a good idea anyway), which the 5600x doesn’t.

  I also think it’s overboard to get $90 watercooling. Just get an air cooler for half or a third of the price

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• ramielrowe@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You really don’t need an AIO with a 5600X. Just grab a reasonably sized tower cooler and call it a day. There’s less to fail, and less risk of water damage if it fails catastrophically. I’ve found thermalright to be exceptionally good for how well priced they are. Not as quiet as Noctua, but damn near the same cooling performance.

  Another thing to consider is that a 5600X doesn’t have built in graphics. I think you’d need to jump up to AM5/7600X for that.

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• CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Depending on your future storage needs, you might check out Fractal’s Define series of cases. I have the Define 6 and have room for around 12 3.5" drives + 4 2.5" drives in a midtower format. It’s super silent too with four fans and the nine 3.5" drives I had in it previously (consolidated down to six larger capacity drives now).

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fractal makes great stuff and has a great customer support and RMA team if something goes wrong.

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• stardustsystem@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Build is solid, but here’s some suggestions.

  1. Another 8TB HDD. the reason being you can merge the 4 drives of the same size into a RAID5 array for data redundancy.
  2. An SSD to install the OS on.
  3. (Optional) More RAM check the mobo to see the max size and speed it can handle, and then fill every slot with that.

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