Submitted 3 weeks ago by SieYaku@chachara.club to technology@lemmy.world
https://theconversation.com/avoiding-ai-is-hard-but-our-freedom-to-opt-out-must-be-protected-255873
Everyday AI become more and more common, but can we say no?
We can control AI just fine. We cannot control corporations, who use sloppy AI for important decisions. A few court cases for unfair hiring practices will solve the problem rather quickly, it won’t be AI who will get fined, it will be CEO.
To be clear, the article is about people who don’t wanna use AI and hes chois or not to do it in a personal level. No an impose to those who embrace AI. Is more like if a person can chose to say not to AI, or in words from the article “those who are left behind is widening and becoming a social barrier”.
“No” - tech bros and republicans
Oh no, people are assaulting me with their different opinions!
No - you can’t say no. People have a right to use AI in their productions, and your opinion cannot force them to do otherwise.
As with anything - the moment your opinion starts to dictate other people’s lives, it becomes invalid.
What if their use of AI affects me? Is my opinion invalid when my opinion is that you shouldnt be allowed to pollute a river that I depend on for accessing water? Have you thought about this for more than 2 seconds?
Have YOU? - Your example is clearly them violating the rights of others.
So what counts as dictating my life?
The government prohibiting me from firing my gun in the air, or my neighbor’s falling bullets prohibiting me from leaving my porch?
I’m always suspect of those who assume there is only “freedom to do” and not also “freedom from being done-to”.
They tend to think they will never be on the receiving end of someone else’s “freedom”.
Re-read your post and try to pinpoint where you contradict yourself. If you are unable to do so, you could ask chat gpt for help.
Is that because you can’t pinpoint it yourself? There’s a reason that you can’t.
Oh no, people are assaulting me with their different opinions!
No - you can’t say no. People have a right to use AI in their productions, and your opinion cannot force them to do otherwise.
They have no right to force me to endure said “productions” garbage.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything by their use of AI.
Libertarians can fuck right off.
What we need is the possibility to protect the content we did created.
this is all pretty comical to me because I remember the same articles being written about the internet in the 80s and '90s and here we are
This is not very similar. As the other poster said, unregulated AI is a corpos dream, and it will destroy us even worse than billionaires already have. Give it 10 years, if you don’t work manual labor you’ll be jobless
Let me know how you feel when you are starving to death from not having any money from AI taking away every possible way to earn a living that isn’t manual labor or shitty service jobs.
well we aren’t there now and while I do understand it’s going to change things, that’s what new technology does whether it’s power tools or automated robots building cars or now ai doing things in software that’s how things evolve with technology and we just figure out ways to continue to exist
Yeah, here we are. The majority of humanity addicted to social media, being brainwashed by far-right assholes into voting for Nazis. That worked out really well, didn’t it?
Why can’t the rule be opt in instead? If I want it, I’ll find it. If I don’t I sure as hell don’t want some company telling me I must.
Gtfo with that shite.
I understand all the concerns about losing jobs and being left behind, but that’s also what happened when the loom was invented. An entire profession gone. Looms were destroyed in protests, people died over embracing the new machine and the inventors of every new version had their lifes threatened. But imagine if we we’re still hand weaving all our clothes today? Yeah maybe they would be more durable than what we have today, but you wouldn’t have many clothes, and there would be a large portion of the population just weaving fabrics.
Same thing happened when threshing machines were invented, steam pumps, cranes, the printing press. History repeats itself where jobs will be lost to new innovation but look at what new jobs and careers these inventions sparked.
Its hard to see it now, but automation is a good thing. It will drive new technology where we will once again find new jobs and careers.
Believe me, as someone still getting into my career which is being threatened by AI, I’m certain there will still be work that isn’t just manual labor.
You’re right, it’s something that is happening and could be good too. But you’re also missing the point. It’s the massive application of AI on all kinds of areas including social media, communications and the intrusive forms of nourish that kind of systems with your data almost every time without our consent. Without and option to opt-out or better not being involved in all that shit that consumes a lot of water and energy, and its being overestimated.
zeca@lemmy.eco.br 3 weeks ago
these negative comments are missing the point. Soon we may not be able to buy a phone that doesnt have an integrated intrusive ai that scans all you files. Android has one, ios has one. Whats the alternative? using lineage os or some other android rom? having to give up using banks apps and stuff that doesnt work in those roms? most people cant say no to having a phone, so lets ensure these phones arent so intrusive. lets legislate something about this…
cabbage@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I live in Denmark, their state identification app does not work if it detects that the Android ROM is not straight from Google. So when I switched to /e/OS I couldn't access anything any more. So yeah, in my case the solution was ta give up on one pretty critical app.
Thankfully the solution was as easy as getting one of those old fashioned code chips, and everything else seems to be working fine (including banking apps from other countries). So now I'm rocking /e/OS and I'm pretty sure there is no way I'm ever going back to Google Android.
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do Magisk and the universal fix no longer help with masking your OS?
scott@lemmy.org 3 weeks ago
Fwiw I can use my banking apps and anything else on GrapheneOS. It’s been smooth sailing all the way.
zeca@lemmy.eco.br 2 weeks ago
im glad that it works for you, but my point is that we should have the right to have a non-intrusive phone just as easily as we have intrusive ones. People shouldnt be expected to learn how to unlock a bootloader, or import one of the few models that support these alternative roms with all security features in place. In the process of installing these roms, some people might fall into the trap of installing them from a suspicious source.
ayaya@lemdro.id 3 weeks ago
Same here. I’ve been using Lineage since it was Cyanogenmod and I’ve never encountered banking or payment apps not working.
Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yep I just have to disable a few default sandboxing flags on my specific banking apps and they work.
fxdave@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
What you really need is freedom. Not from AI but from corporations.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
btw, my bank recently announced that they’ll not let anyone login to the web bank from mobile phones. their justification is to “protect against hackers”, which is an obvious lie
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Use desktop mode and spoof the user agent with an extension. I’m assuming you’re of average intelligence and already use Firefox.
gnygnygny@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Using a cheap android phone just for bank seems the solution.
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Also an email for only your bank and finances, to prevent being phished.