Is DOGE actually about collecting information to train AI for Musk products than saving money?

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨0101100101@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

Here’s my hot take. DOGE is actually about collecting information under the guise of ‘saving money’. This information will then be used to train AI networks for products that e.g. Musk sells to the US and world-wide goverments to make decisions.

This is why I think Musk is trying to curry favour with other politicians around the world to collect even more information to train for products for them. e.g. in the UK, Nigel Farage who has been paid by Musk, is now singing Musk’s tune stating that each local council “needs a DOGE” (for no apparent reason) and shouldn’t be doing things like making local decisions to help climate change. Removing power from local councils would create a more powerful goverment… a fascist state perhaps…?

There was a lot of talk about using AI to power goverments at the start of Trump’s term which is now very quiet.

Thoughts?

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libra00@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
No, DOGE is about dismantling/looting the parts of government that are capable of regulating and taxing oligarchs in the name of ‘saving money.’ If they somehow do actually save any money (and with the recent removal of most of their ‘successes’ from the website even that is heavily debatable) it will just go into more tax breaks for the rich.

Data harvesting is just part of the looting, but it’s gravy, not the main course.

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- DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Oligarchs? Don’t be surprised if one greedy piece of shit decided to do this specifically for him and his greedy soulless corporate.
  
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  - libra00@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Oh no doubt, but the reduction in taxes and regulation will benefit all of them.
    
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Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
DOGE is about hurting regulations and accountability for rich Musks companies.

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karashta@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
There's a few reasons to get that data.

To weaponize it against us himself, or sell it to our enemies.

To create a "master list" that the authoritarians can use to disburse and destroy those they disagree with or find impure.

This isn't just about some shitty AI. It's about destroying and controlling us.

He's currying favor with world leaders because he saw how easy it has been for such vast wealth to undermine and topple American democracy and he wants to do this everywhere.

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- sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  With that Administration’s track record of keeping secret things secret, China and Russia will get access to this master list before it’s even finished.
  
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  - taladar@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Even without that track record, that was always going to happen. There is a reason why most privacy advocates consider the mere creation of centralized lists of aggregated data like that a very bad idea.
    
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RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
there’s evidence that Doge infiltrated systems and provided access to Russia so on the best side of things musk is making AI products on the worst side it’s international lesbianage

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hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I don't think it is about that. The information collection is an added bonus they happily accept and make use of. I think it's mainly about power and money, though. They get rid of everyone who isn't completely in line and subservient. That's from the playbook on how to become an autocratic regime. And they're oviously interested in the money as well. Cut off everyone and everything they don't like. Like weak people, poor people, your grandma and children. That money can then be funneled towards other people. I think the power and control aspect is the original idea though. And money has power as well. So does information and data, so it's more a combination of things.

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skvlp@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Data harvesting is definitely part of it.

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- WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  In the sense of making a list of who to deport, who to watch for “woke ideas” and might become a problem, who needs some religious purification. They Nazi loved records too, especially those about religion.
  
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