Submitted 11 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to energy@slrpnk.net
Some fossil-fuel-burning power plants were kept on at minimum operating levels (they’re likely not designed for daily restarts) but provided less power than was used to pump water uphill in hydoelectric storage facilities.
during the day
If you literally mean “during day time” not an actual 24h period.
And that’s how it starts. You add enough wind and solar that they can sometimes provide more electricity than people use. Curtailment orders keep them from causing a problem, but that means wasting otherwise free electricity. So people start installing utility-scale batteries, which soak up that excess, and release it during the morning and evening peaks in net demand. You install even more wind and solar, and people do even more batteries, displacing routine overnight fossil fuel use. Even more wind and solar, and it starts making sense to install low-efficiency long-duration storage, and fossil fuel use disappears completely and permanently.
Not impressed. Spain managed to run on almost nothing a few days ago.
Spain managed to run …
Nobody ran anything that day. It was a mega-siesta.
And from French nuclear power outside of the solar peak:
Sorry about the graph in French, it comes from RTE, the electricity distribution network here. This is a graph of the import/export. Orange is Germany, the thick gray horizontal bar is the zero: things below are exports from France and above are imports. During midday we typically import below-zero surplus electricity from Germany and re-export at around 100€/MWh.
It is not a simple situation and it does not lend itself to simplistic judgement. There is some criticism here in France that German’s surplus and inability to absorb it makes it unprofitable to develop solar power locally. The manager of RTE already warned that in the current conditions, adding renewables to the grid may prove counter-productive.
We have reached the point in France + Germany and probably Spain where renewables are at saturation until we find better ways to handle the intermittence. This is a good problem to have, but one that was warned against years ago.
We have so some pumping into the dams but that’s a very limited capability.
In the beginning of the year the German grid operators had requests for over 226GW of grid connections for utility scale batteries. That is the very first step of developing a utility scale battery site, so most of that probably is not going to be built. Then again peak load in Germany was also only a bit over 75GW.
For what it is worth, utility-scale batteries have been the next step in added storage capacity after pumped hydroelectric is built out
houseofleft@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
That’s awesome!
As a UK person working in battery energy I often take a look at the awesome grid.iamkate.com in a sunny and windy day to see how high renewables go. It’s not uncommon for.them to jump past 90% in the right conditions.