Submitted 11 months ago by Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca to selfhosted@lemmy.world
What do you prefer to use for a password manager?
How well does it work on mobile? (specifically, using autofill on android 14)
I’m currently using Vaultwarden; but the android app, which is where I’m using it 95% of the time, has always been a bit flakey getting autofill to popup. Now it’s decided to stop working entirely; so I’m going to look around at some alternatives for now.
Switched from 1password to vaultwarden, no looking back.
I did the same, as soon as 1Password started migrating to centralized subscription model.
I was grandfathered to a lifetime sub so I sort of let it slide for a few years. But they really have 0 advantages over OSS. Another company turned to garbage.
Been selfhosting the official Bitwarden stack for the last 7 years now and it’s been running great.
I also use keepass and syncthing
Keepass with the android app that syncs over OneDrive. That way I have my passwords anywhere, also when I sit by my old Windows laptop from time to time.
Vaultwarden over tailscale has been good to me.
I do have a qualm with how easy it is to accidentally close bitwarden before saving a password and losing the password you just generated. But that’s just taught me to not zip through the process
I believe you can view the generated password history
Too bad it auto-generates a new one in the same menu :)
I wish I had the confidence in my security provisions to self host my secrets on the internet. I do use bitwarden, but that is local to my machine. It works good for me, as my memory is shit. About the only thing I could say against Bitwarden is that the recent theme change was a huge mistake and caused a lot of people a lot of stress. Insomuch as the public outcry against the new theme was so great, they switched back to the old theme. Whoever created the new theme had to have been a sadist.
I keep vaultwarden behind a vpn so it’s not exposed directly to the net. You don’t need a constant connection to the server; that’s only needed to add/change vault items.
This does require some planning though; it’s easy to lock yourself out of your accounts when you’re away, if you don’t incorporate a backdoor of some kind to let yourself in in an emergency. (lost your device while away from home for example)
My normal vpn connection requires a private key and a password that’s stored in my vault to decrypt it. I’ve setup a method for retrieving a backup set of keys using a series of usernames, emails, passwords, and undocumented paths (these are the only passwords I actually memorize); allowing me to reach vaultwarden where I can retrieve my vault with the data needed to login to everything else properly.
if you don’t incorporate a backdoor
I’ve often thought about this, and since it has come up in convo, I’ll ask: If you were to implement a backdoor to your server, how would you go about that? Currently I have 3 vps and one rack in the closet. It is the vps I’m interested in the most. Only one vps offers a rescue ssh, and yes I can confirm, if you are not exceedingly careful on my setup, you can lock yourself right out. I run tailscale on everything and I often wondered if I could incorporate tailscale as a emergency backdoor.
Keyguard, which works on Bitwarden-compatible servers like Vaultwarden
Enpass works well for me.
psono password manager from germany, you can self host it and it’s open source
Interesting, I had not heard of Psono before, cool to see a European alternative that is fully open source. I’m currently self-hosting Vaultwarden but I might give this a try to see how it holds up.
I’ve been using “passwords” on nextcloud for a few years now. Minimal issues with the app, moving apps, and browser extensions. Not perfect, but hey it’s self hosted and reliable.
Depends.
Do you want to share passwords? Vaultwarden.
Anything else? Keepass and Syncthing.
keepass
it’s technically no password manager but a file format.
there are dozens of apps that will work on any platform, including soft keyboard with “password” bitton for smartphone that will just work everywhere and browser extensions, apps that allow you to use your yubikey to unlock and anything else. you can host your vault anywhere including a google drive or your own webdav or ftp server and keep local copies on your devices synchronized…
Wait so I use keepass too. Why is it not technically as password manager
i mean eachch of the individual programs that can load your keepass keyring is a password manager.
the keyring itself isn’t a password manager and the main reason why i use it is because each of the individual programs that i actually use to open it (keepassxc on windows, keepassdroid on my phone, keeweb on my vps…) can use the same file with the same specification that is shared everywhere.
i’m not bound to any particular program with a particular set of features. just use anything that can open that file format from a place where i choose to host it.
I believe they’re argueing, as it can store more than passwords, it’s not purely a password manager.
Its an encrypted keyring idk what they’re talking about
Agree with others, Vaultwarden is probably your best bet. I’ve found the default app to be a little flaky, but ended up using Keyguard, which I’ve found really good.
I used to use Keypass+Syncthing, but found sync conflicts too often (due to Syncthing support for Android), hence the switch.
I’ve been using keyguard for a while now its much smoother then the native bitwarden app and allows multiple vaults which is nice when syncing personal/work vault for example.
That’s an interesting option. It’s the Bitwarden app I’ve been having issues with; though I’m not sure how much of that is Bitwardens fault vs Android itself.
I’ll give that a look, thanks :)
In the Bitwarden Android app, make sure all the autofill settings are enabled. Sometimes, system updates seem to disable them.
I use Bitwarden (as far as I know these are basically the same) and have had issues with the app too, from long delays before it autofills, to the popup jumping around the screen or vanishing after 1ms, to just never showing up on some screens. I would recommend trying some of the other autofill options they provide in settings to see if they work better for you. I have had much more luck with “inline autofill” than the accessibility-based autofill, but currently keep them all enabled and the experience is much smoother than it was a year ago.
You can open the browser extension menu and press the fill button. The autofill never seems to have worked here on my mobile Firefox 🤷
In theory you can also self-host Firefox sync, but well… there seem to be issues with that.
The autofill popup has always been unreliable for me on Android (with Bitwarden)
I use the quick settings tile most of the time instead
Thank you! You gave me the hint I needed.
I didn’t know there was a quick setting button (the buttons in the notification tray) and have been struggling to find the accessibility options people have mentioned.
That button in the tray seems so much more reliable. Thanks again!
Same for me, and I use the button in my quick settings as well.
I use keepass+syncthing.
One of those things that has been there for years, works flawless, to the point that I’ve stopped thinking about it.
I do similar, except nextcloud and backups beyond just syncing. I fear something corrupting my database and that syncing immediately through all my devices.
I use KeePassXC. I have to sync it myself between devices (I use pCloud, syncthing and rclone). They have an android app that works great and there is an iOS app as wellapp, Strongbox. I’ve looked at replacing it a few times but nothing gave me the customisation Keypass offers.
I use Bitwarden, which I’m fairly sure is the same product. Perhaps the issue lies with the app you’re using to login rather than the manager? For example, Bitwarden works well on at least Chrome and Brave, but rarely on Ecosia.
Vaultwarden is just a self-hosted server for Bitwardens clients. It’s Bitwardens android client I’ve been having issues with.
Bitwarden and Vaultwarden are different products. Vaultwarden is API-compatible with the Bitwarden client apps, but it’s a completely separate project.
Vaultwarden is pretty much the standard if you’re talking about self-hosted.
I’ve honestly never had a single issue with the Android app, or mobile extensions for Firefox. What’s your setup, and have you tried completely evacuating local storage and redoing your login and sync from scratch? There are a lot more mobile updates that can cause locally stored versions of things to cause problems.
The native rewrite of the Android app is butter smooth. I think it’s still technically in beta, but I’ve been using it for more than a year.
This is not normal, that is not working at all. Repair instead of switching to other manager
I tried. I couldn’t get it to work again, so wanted to look at other options alongside looking for help/solutions.
But just as it decided to stop working, despite my efforts; it’s suddenly started working again.
Sigh…
Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I use Unix Pass connected to a git server I host myself. The interface options for various devices are a bit clunky, but it basically “just works” outside of that.