It will be amazing if AI destroys humanity without ever becoming conscious. Everyone was envisioning Skynet, when in reality we’ll just cook the Earth with GHGs so that data center GPUs can hallucinate legal cases.
AI Energy Demand Can Keep Fossil Fuels Alive, Tech Backers Promise World’s Two Biggest Oil Producers
Submitted 1 day ago by Tea@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
thejml@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Or we could, you know, NOT do that. That’d be the better option.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
The monster that is Infinite Growth can’t do that.
kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Excuse me, we do not use that “logic” thing here. Thanks.
Prox@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Who is going to actually pay for all this AI junk once all the investors decide it’s time to stop “disrupting the market and gaining share” and time to start charging people what it actually costs to run (plus margins)?
Like, I use ChatGPT and Copilot and shit because it’s free, but if it were $5/month I’d happily walk away.
VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
My half thought conspiracy: The actual hope is to get people so reliant on AI that the fee is secondary.
You’re already staying to see this in news articles where, "Chat gpt says Trump’s physical not possible," or that “gork calls elon top misinformation spreader.”
Why are news outlets reporting on what some hallucinating AI says? To legitimize it. As people use it now they’ll become more reliant on it. It’ll be no different than, "just Google it "
But they aren’t only going to do this to make a profit. It’s more than that. It’s about controlling the flow of information. Once people are reliant right on it they’ll adjust algorithms and black list information that doesn’t benefit them.
Legitimately AI is trying to position itself to control information and by extension the realities of its users. And that is priceless.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I hate how we let them re-name it distruption, we should go back calling it what it is. Using their vast wealth to comit blatant market manipulation using anti-competative practices.
9point6@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh cool, I can’t think of any potential issues with oil companies prioritising AI over human customers
5too@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The rest of the world has been trying to move away from fossil fuels for decades. Why these guys didn’t figure out they should diversify beyond oil I do not understand.
boonhet@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
The house of Saud has a lot of money in renewables already for example. But they make even more money if we buy all their oil first, so that’s what they want us to do.
frezik@midwest.social 8 hours ago
Large corporations are allergic to capital expenditures. That is, they don’t like investing in new things to make the business run. They want their previous investment to run as long as possible. On occasion, the workers will arrange things to be covered as “maintenance” rather than capital expenditures.
Oil companies have invested in oil pumps and refineries. They could invest in all sorts of other things, but that’s less money in the hands of shareholders. That’s all there is to it. Money spent on new investments isn’t making them richer right now.
Novocirab@feddit.org 1 day ago
Well, shit. But at least there’s this:
It’s also far from clear that the tech industry will prove to be as hungry for fossil fuel power as some predict. First, advances in AI technology could drive energy consumption down. Concerns are emerging that the technology may not fully live up to the hype, at least from investors’ standpoints, with Alibaba Group chairman Joe Tsai telling a Hong Kong investment summit in March that data construction may have already reached “the beginning of some kind of bubble.” Plus, the Trump tariffs have injected extraordinary levels of uncertainty into global markets, leaving some experts wondering if the upheaval could derail an AI boom.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
leaving some experts wondering if the upheaval could derail an AI boom.
AI hype could certainly be derailed if you need to start an independent baseless hype in dozens of separate countries instead of just having the hype as a cultural export of the US.
AA5B@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
It doesn’t even have to be a derailed boom, but simply
- a maturity transition where the dilettantes fall out, concentrating on the biggest players
- more efficiency. There’s been a ton of research on efficiency and that’s a great profit multiplier so will be rapidly taken up
Bezier@suppo.fi 1 day ago
Dr. Evil holds a meeting with the sole goal of making everything worse.
SaltSong@startrek.website 1 day ago
That’s a good thing, is it?
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Morgan Freeman: “It wasn’t.”
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
why would we want to keep fossil fuels alive?
nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
No.
AA5B@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Aside from the obvious questions everyone else is posting …. How is this even relevant? Saudi Arabia mainly exports oil, but US uses almost no oil products for generating electricity. Unless data centers start installing their own generators (please no) for full time power, it’s a non-starter. What electrical utility does s going to build an oil burning generator plant?
History we’ve used a lot of coal and natural gas, so that’s the most likely fossil fuels to increase. And those are fuels the US has tons of
Khanzarate@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
They have actually started doing that already. At least musk has.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Dear lord, don’t give trump ideas
monogram@feddit.nl 1 day ago
For those who aren’t able to read this:
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
Death cult mentality. Holding the entire planet hostage for their own gain. These people deserve a penalty of a certain kind.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
We have to start luiginating a few thousand assholes or we won’t have a rock to live in in the near future