My favorite song of recent years I can't stop crying to on repeat was AI generated for my own pleasure. Crazy times.

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What is up with these fucken posts? “Modern music” slaps as hard as music always has. If you’re seeing garbage all around you, get out of the fucken dump.

  The Nothing That Is just released and they’re song about Gaza kicks my fucken teeth in every time I hear it. Good music is here and it never left.

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  • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same as complaining about modern movies being unoriginal sequels without original IP. It’s a revelation that the commenter isn’t actually diving into anything and is only exposed to advertisements and popular media. Yeah, sequels and existing IP are money grabs. It’s amusing to then see the tangential complaint that the annual award ceremonies are trash because they didn’t pick some excellent original movie. OK, but look at what does win. More than half are original/first-time adaptations and Avengers are nowhere on there. But these commenters, just like the mechanisms that lead to something being popular (but not inherently great), are asking for popular recommendations on better media!

    Agreed, get out of the dump. If you only listen to pop radio or streaming trending, it’s only going to be pop and pop-adjacent. If you only hear about movies from ads and trending topics, it’s only going to be the equivalent of pop. Browse by genre, but new releases, by awards, whatever. But all of them take effort to find, consume thoroughly, and appreciate - exactly why their numbers flounder next to pop in the first place.

    Plus, I’d add, basically every band you forgot about prior to 2010 made a new album in 2020/2021.

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• Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It means you don’t know what good music is (and I mean that kindly), and by using these services that were trained on real musicians’ art, you’re feeding yourself garbage while helping normalize art theft.

  Music is mathematical. The chords, the rhythm, the time signatures—all of that is based on math. There’s a hypothesis that there’s a (large) finite number of songs that can be created, due to this fact. If you are enjoying something produced by AI, it’s only because it is utilizing these mathematical patterns. However, there’s a big difference between AI “music” and music produced by real artists.

  The AI can follow a pattern, but it’s not creative. Music isn’t just making patterns. It’s also about telling stories through sound, and that’s not something AI can do, because it has no experiences to draw upon. It can’t comprehend what it means to be human, and it doesn’t have deep thoughts that drive it to create.

  So if you like something from AI, figure out what genre it is and look for real artists in that genre. I guarantee you’ll at least find something in the indie scene that fits what you like, and you’ll be supporting real art.

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  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Music isn’t just making patterns.

    Oh but it actually is, and there’s been loads of studies kn exactly what combinations of chords and transitions people generally find pleasing to listen to. Thats also why you can play literally thousands of popular song from throughout modern history with the exact same 4-chord pattern. This is extensively utilised by so-called “hit makers” when producing for this exact reason, is is near universally pleasing to listen to.

    It’s also about telling stories through sound,}

    To some, sure it is. But to the music industry in general it really isn’t, it’s about making a catchy tune (usually by method mention above) to make some money. It’s a sad reality of the industry, like it or not.

    It can’t comprehend what it means to be human, and it doesn’t have deep thoughts that drive it to create.

    Again, the vast majority of music hitting mainstream channels is pretty much cookie cutter production with no deep thoughts behind it, despite being made entirely by humans.

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh but it actually is, and there’s been loads of studies on exactly what combinations of chords and transitions people generally find pleasing to listen to.

      Okay, pedant. Perhaps I should have been more specific by using the word “melody.” But those chords you mentioned aren’t all the same. They might be the same notes, but they’re all played differently, with more or less expression, with varying tempos, etc. There is math and theory and even marketing studies involved, but Music is more than just notes strung together in a pattern.

      It’s a sad reality of the industry, like it or not.

      Okay, but I’m not talking about the industry. I’m talking about music in general, of which the industry is a single part. AI might sound similar to or use some of the same pattern-following as mainstream music, but that doesn’t make them equivalent, just nominally parallel.

      And focusing only upon mainstream music discounts the vast array of non-mainstream music. There are countless musicians that try new things, that don’t follow the mathematical patterns, that tell “stories.” Most of them don’t make it onto the radio or into movie soundtracks, but that doesn’t make their art less valid or varied, especially when comparing it to AI slop.

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  • Emmie@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then rather than going to AI, which again only supports art theft, go to a forum like Lemmy and ask for some suggestions. I think you’ll find music lovers are more than willing to offer suggestions.

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