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• TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Put simply, Lets say hypothetically he’s like you on lemmy.cafe.

  and we’ll say he’s posting to to lemmy.world/c/memes which he was banned from.

  His post will show up to lemmy.cafe users connected to memes… but his posts will only show up on the lemmy.cafe version of memes. When cafe federates back to world, world will just ignore the posts and not share them.

  In addition they won’t be seen by, lets say programming.dev here, while it hasn’t banned this person, it’s looking to world for it’s copy of the community, which will not have your friends posts.

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  • pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That seems like it could cause issues with moderation. If they start posting spam in the community, how is it dealt with for the sake of lemmy.cafe users?

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    • TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think that is a current weakness that’s being worked on, I’m seeing requests of more or less that github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4485

      to make it federate or block, but unless I’m missing much newer updates, that is kind of the problem. My guess is on the whole it mostly resolves itself as… he probably will piss off the mods of cafe eventually as well, and the limited audience of only being visible to cafe would result in a near shadow ban effect to mostly starve them out.

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  • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Interesting.

    So posts and comments from a remote instance first go to the communiy’s home instance, before they are then further propagated out to other remote instances?

    And that’s where this filtering of banned users would happen?

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    • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also, if your instance admins banned a mod from your instance, their mod actions wouldn’t be shown to your instance. So, a mod could remove your comment, or ban you from a community, and you wouldn’t notice it on your instance’s local copy, but your comments would never show up to the community (only users on your instance will see it).

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    • TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s my understanding of it, I’m not an expert so… I’m only giving 70% confidence in my answer.

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• Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  On lemmy, a ban can be a few different things:

  1. Banned from the instance your account is on. This means you have to make a new account, usually on a different instance.
  2. Banned from a different instance than the one your account is on. This means you get banned from communities you’ve participated in on that instance, and that instance will no longer federate with your account. You might participate in new communities on that instance, and people not on that will see your comments, but people on the instance you were banned from won’t see them. From the perspective of that instance you don’t exist anymore.
  3. Not banned from any instances, but banned from individual communities. You can’t post in that specific community but can still interact with the instance that community is on.

  Like someone else said, clear as mud, lol.

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• IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The ban didnt federate for some reason.

  It’s like you keep sending letters to a pen pal that already mailed you a “Stop Sending Me Letters”, but you didn’t receive it. So you still think you are on speaking terms, but they are shredding all your future letters.

  That’s what’s happening.

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• Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So, when you post to a community, you’re posting to the local copy of it. Your host then forwards that post to the site that houses the community. When you’re banned from a remote site, nothing interferes with this process until the local host forwards things along. By that time, you’ve already posted.

  Now, the site that’s housing the community is responsible for federating content it receives back out again, so while you can continue to post to the community locally, those posts won’t make it to any other copy of the community. But because each instance’s copy of the community is quasi-independent from each other, you can, IIRC, still engage with other local users in that space.

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Go to a comment you think shows he’s “fake banned” from.

  Then go look at it from that instance instead of a 3rd party instance.

  Their comments won’t show there, so they won’t get any engagement from people viewing from that instance.

  Because they’re making the comments on that 3rd party’s copy, but it doesn’t federate to the main one that they’re banned from

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