Choking during sex: many young people mistakenly believe it can be done safely, our study shows

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• eureka@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Confidential, cross-sectional online surveys were conducted with 4702 Australians aged 18–35 years. […] A total of 57% reported ever being sexually strangled (61% women, 43% men, 79% trans or gender diverse) and 51% reported ever strangling a partner (40% women, 59% men, 74% trans or gender diverse).

  There’s no way I could guess the number would be that high. It’s very unintuitive.

  If I’m reading that chart correctly (disclaimer: im tired) then of the 57% who reported being strangled, the last time it happened, 25% of them didn’t consent, and of the 51% reporting they strangled a partner, 16% report their partner didn’t consent.

  I just can’t empathise with that. How are that many people convinced it’s ok to just spontaneously strangle a person. I’m always shocked by how common SA is because it’s just not talked about as much as it happens.

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  • vividspecter@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This is also concerning:

    Here, there was a general presumption that consent could be provided once, and no further consent or negotiation at subsequent events would be required.

    I kind of roll my eyes at the consent subjects that are becoming mandatory at universities thinking this stuff is obvious, but clearly people actually need this education.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      People literally need to be taught not to rape, yes. Humans don’t have instincts in the proper sense, they need to be taught literally everything and assuming parents did their job is… Unwise.

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• No1@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Listen all you freaks, I do not consent!

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• Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  ignore it, the study design is very dodgy and NOT representative of the general population

  the headlines are clickbait lies

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  • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    the study design is very dodgy

    How so?

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  • eureka@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Can you tell us how, so that we can spot and avoid dodgy studies in the future?

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• vividspecter@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Here’s the actual study (should be free to read): link.springer.com/article/…/s10508-024-02937-y

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• CallateCoyote@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’ve never had a partner that wants me to actually choke her for fuck’s sake. A lot of women are just turned on by the fantasy and like sex a little rough. Apply a little pressure on their neck and humor them if they’re into it.

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• BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Jesus fucking christ.

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• indomara@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This article is feeling kind of clickbaitish, as the sources are … odd.

  However, restricting blood flow to the brain can also have serious health implications.

  While not all pressure on the neck will be fatal, research shows even relatively low pressure can cause death by strangulation.

  The first source is a medical journal describing the physiology of the arteries in the neck, and does not seem to include anything about restricting blood flow (never mind temporarily) having serious health consequences.

  The second source is a book from 1991 about autoerotic asphyxiation with the quote:

  autoerotic asphyxia denotes death resulting from failure of a release mechanism of the device, apparatus or prop designed to attain cerebral hypoxia for heightened arousal.

  Which is … not the same as doing this with someone, and doesn’t address the risks of a partner who releases pressure immediately after a loss of consciousness.

  The issues around consent are troubling indeed, consent should always be paramount.

  I also found it amusing that the beginning of the article said

  Although rare, strangulation is the leading cause of death in consensual BDSM play.

  Which links to a study that found a total of 16 cases that included strangulation between 1982 and 2020. Rare indeed.

  My husband and I dabble in breath play, so I was curious and read a few studies myself. It seems that every case study I could find included atypical circumstances. Things like accidental hanging, or asphyxiation due to bags etc being over the head.

  This paper includes a 50 year review of cases for anyone interested. benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/…/TOFORSJ-1-1.pdf

  It is also worth noting that loss of consciousness due to cutting off blood flow to the brain (cerebral hypoxia) is not dissimilar to the hypoxia experienced by pilots, who even train with repeated exposure to hypoxia in hyperbaric chambers.

  I would be curious to know if there were any studies of the long term effects of this on pilots. (My dive into the rabbit hole is done for the day, lol.)

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• TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  first thought was “man we’ve all been there!” but I was thinking choking as having a bad root.

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  • ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My first thought here was “is this person insane?” but I was thinking root as roots of a plant.

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• DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They used to warn us about the dangers of choking the chicken.

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