Submitted 4 weeks ago by tfm@europe.pub to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://europe.pub/pictrs/image/866ba1c7-3c5f-49a9-862e-adec275954ac.png
What do you think about this graphic?
It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.
These infographics seem better: fedecan.ca/en/guide/get-started
Recently posted on !fediverse@piefed.social
That’s cool but I think that’s too technical for the average social media user
This doesn’t explain things well. Lemmy is like a bunch of Reddits communicating with each other. The graphic makes it seem like there is just one Lemmy. Also, are Lemmy posts on Mastodon? Mastodon was largely empty last I checked.
Mastodon users can subscribe to Lemmy communities I think, but it doesn’t really work very well. The Mastodon feed isn’t really made to support threaded content so all the Lemmy comments will fill and mess up your feed.
I think the ATProtocol is better when it comes to connecting between different social media types. But I think ActivityPub makes better use of different servers.
Though I think something like Lemmy is difficult for both because of how different it is from most other social media types.
My criticism is that it largely ignores the primary advantage of Fediverse services (Decentralizing services that are designed to operate Centrally), while mostly explaining what I’ve always considered to be the most pointless feature (Cross Service posting).
It’s a mildly neat feature if you want to centralize your entire social profile under one account (which is my security nightmare but you do you), but its not really fundamental to using federated services and its implementation can be inconsistent and confusing.
Maybe have a bunch of “Lemmy” (or whatever) nodes arranged in a circle, the same color, with the same icon, and connected to each other through the middle of the circle. Then have the users connected to each node.
I just got here but I’ve noticed this platform is much nicer compared to things like reddit. No bots, no ai softcore porn ads. I’ll take the fediverse any day.
Nice to hear. :)
What convinced you to join?
Some people in a left leaning subreddit told me it would be a good backup. Then just yesterday I got perma banned and the admins wouldn’t tell me why. So now I’m here
Needs more chains and walls between groups in the top picture. And maybe some ransom notes.
There’s no central authority here. But if it doesn’t matter which instance you are on, then all the users on Lemmy are still just part of Lemmy.
On the graph I see other icons than Lemmy.
Are we able to see content from other social media? Or what is meant with that
Certain other content crosses boarders. Matson especially. Whenever you see people replying to messages and it starts with some sort of !user@lemmy.verse tagging, you’re probably eavesdropping on a Mastadon thread and you don’t even know it.
For the top services, I’d make each of the blue background circles a different color to better denote that they’re proprietary and incompatible.
For the Fediverse section, you could add Tumblr, and other services who also federate via activity pub to show our interoperability and expansive reach.
Tumblr
Is it already working?
GLOBALISTS ARE TAKING OVER
Lemmy and mastodon are not really connected, I don’t know about the others. I would focus on one protocol (is that the right term here?) and show different instances. I’m not on lemmy to follow mastodon users, it’s a very different concept
But from Mastodon, you can follow and post in Lemmy groups.
You can subscribe to and comment in Lemmy communities from Mastodon.
But you can’t view Mastodon posts from Lemmy.
Maybe you can show that we don't alway federate with every instance with several cloud network.
That's also part of our freedom :)
Good idea. But I think it’s better to explain that later, when people are already curious :)
Okay maybe I don’t get it but how can I access mastodon from my lemmy account?
Mastodon and Lemmy have only limited interoperability. You can’t follow individual users on Lemmy, so most of it is one-way. Mastodon users can post to Lemmy communities by @-ing a specific community, and Lemmy users can then reply as normal and their replies will show up in the Mastodon users feed.
That’s why I’m always a bit reluctant to have an infographic with Mastodon and Lemmy fully connected. Sure, it’s possible to interact, but it’s not ideal.
Having another one with Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed servers could be better
Subscribing to user posts on Lemmy would be a fantastic feature
Simply put your Mastodon profile URL into the search.
In thie fesiverse graphic each person has exactly 1 connection to a fediverse thing. But in reality, there can be more. I guess in practice there are often more than one.
It needs a lot more people and lines connecting to the centralize services, like 6+. You have 14 dudes in the fediverse, you should have a similar number of dudes in the traditional centralized social media things. You need to make it clear that every connection between two people goes through that central server. With only 3 or 4 it looks like it’s some kind of small community there, like you’re just saying “communities exist on Facebook” rather than “on Facebook everybody connects to one central Facebook service”. It would also be good to draw a black line around the edge of the bubble to indicate it’s a walled garden rather than an open system.
For the Fediverse example, it would be good to have a slightly darker shaded bubble with people around their local fediverse instance. That would indicate that there are local communities, but that they can still communicate with all the other communities. And, maybe show that people can be part of different communities, show one person connected both to a mastodon instance and a Lemmy instance.
It’s actually a graphic. I’d put a legend explaining some of the fediverse icons. And 2 sentences explaining that each fediverse icon communicated with other fediverse icons
bad chart
Why?
Don’t pay too much attention lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=1220346
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
Maybe remove the fediverse in the middle, if I knew nothing about the fediverse it will seem like it is centralized?
DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
John Fediverse is in the middle, holding all the fediverse conmections together.
MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
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lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Is his first name John or Join?