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Reddit tracking upvotes for mod actions
Submitted 1 year ago by Nursery2787@lemmy.ml to fediverse@lemmy.world
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Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
yay this time I came back to lemmy before it was cool.
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s funny because Reddit admins decide the most random bullshit is violent content. I’ve seen posts [removed by reddit] for hypothetically asking about using violence in a self defense situation.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 year ago
All of their moves were very much “okay on the surface this seems normal, but what are you actually trying to do”. Then you start seeing what you are pointing out. Who decides what is violent? When does it expand past violent?
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“You will not wrongthink.”
-Spez, gargled out around Musk’s cock and balls
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Is this to deter amplifying any organization for the second u.s. revolution?
danc4498@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The Reddit ecosystem relies on engaged users to downvote bad content and report potentially violative content.
I love how they refer to their corporate profit method as the “Reddit Ecosystem”
They make it sound like this is the universally owned and managed ecosystem that we all are responsible for maintaining and we all equally benefit from. The corporate overlords decide what they want the ecosystems to be, the rules, the content, the algorithm… All to benefit their stock prices and bonuses.
But all of a sudden it’s the community’s responsibility for maintaining THEIR rules for THEIR profit? How about fuck you Reddit.
I know this doesn’t affect me as I am plenty happy being on Lemmy, but the audacity still pisses me off.
AloneYogurt@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Just officially moved over from Reddit and while Lemmy is a tad more complicated to learn. It’s nothing an hour couldn’t fix.
This just was my personal tipping point and I hope others follow suit. I’m sad because I enjoyed the humorous content, individuals pets, and musical discussions. But after being told I need to watch what I upvote I couldn’t harbor the idea that free and open discussions are welcomed there.
willdabeest@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I got banned on Reddit for calling out Americans for their bullshit with tariffs and the whole 51st state schtick. Fuck them.
danc4498@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well, those things you live about Reddit have only been getting better on Lemmy as time goes on.
fox2263@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So if you upvote Israeli airstrikes do you reckon theyll let that slide, but if you upvote a post about cyber trucks being vandalised then suddenly your FBI agent abseiling down your house?
misk@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
I’m not sure about your impressions from this wave of Reddit refugees but I think we’re getting worst of the worst right now because the rule that Reddit is applying makes sense, despite Reddit being shit overall. Reddit upvotes aren’t public which makes people behave like a mob and now that they’re being punished for promoting rule-breaking content these people want a new outlet. Did anyone tell them Lemmy votes are public like everything else on ActivityPub?
Resurectra@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m a reddit refugee because I see Luigi I upvote.
I’m sure there are a lot of people in my situation.
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Eh, I don’t think reddit’s idea of “bad content” is wrong, nor do I think a blanket “don’t upvote bad content” is going to do anything for the site except make it so people are more wary about upvoting anything that might be “bad,” like, eventually, calls for protest, calls for justice, calls for things like the rule of law to be followed for traitors.
misk@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
I had a misfortune of posting this to technology community on Lemmy.world and my inbox is hammered with replies from accounts created on the same day - they do not instil me with confidence. Plenty of people brag that they got banned for calls for political assassinations.
Reddit people are too incompetent to be truly evil like Meta is. I’m sure they’re mostly concerned about remaining profitable hence some cautious moves to monetise porn subreddits over the last 2 years.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 year ago
What Reddit believes to be “bad content” has historically been a little dubious. So I can understand people are apprehensive about this.
x00z@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A little dubious
I once got permabanned for sharing that the Chinese eat eggs boiled in the pee of young boys.
misk@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
What Reddit believes to be bad content is often calls for violence or homophobia too. What they’re trying to fix now is that subreddits could be easily taken over by a brigade that could change the culture very quickly and mods are powerless to stop it because it’s a whack-a-mole when votes are not public.
Evotech@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nice, very dystopian
loaf@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
As someone who ditched Reddit a couple of years ago in favor of Lemmy, I feel a bit vindicated. I thought my “dump Reddit” mentality was maybe unjustified, but… here we are. No regrets.
socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
and this way we’re also not throwing value at a hostile american corporation.
loaf@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Exactly. That’s why I tend to always stick to the Fediverse, even when newer, trendier options pop up (like Bluesky).
And009@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Yep, wanted to comment to inform someone, but resisted the other day and now I’m glad I did.
Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Reddit finally acknowledges that upvotes and downvotes are for agreement and disagreement.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
were they not supposed to be?
Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, originally they were supposed to be for content that contributes and added value, even if you didn’t agree:
But the amount of “came here to say this” and “haha epic updoot for you sir” has made it pretty clear that the karma whoring was for agreement.
It’s the reason there are echo chambers now.
Meltdown@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]poplargrove@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can report to mods, or to reddit itself.
I never reported violence but reported a fair deal of racism on non-english subreddits I browse. They were been taken down.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Spoken live you have never been on reddit.
HandBash@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What makes you disagree lmao.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
No offense but, I would’ve posted that on the many Reddit communities instead of this one. We don’t need to be reminded how shitty Reddit is.
Let’s focus on how the fediverse is doing instead.
And009@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Good reminder and nice to stay informed what new hell is cooking up
RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 year ago
There are so many communities where this would have been much more relevant
Sergio@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
agreed. at most it belongs on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com so we can consider how we can use it to advertise lemmy to disenchanted r$dditors.
Nursery2787@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Helps me whenever I feel nostalgic for the giant content silos Reddit has.
danc4498@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think major Reddit news is absolutely relevant to the Lemmy community. If nothing else, it is a good reminder of what we want from our communities and why we are here and not there. In addition, it may lead to a surge in active users.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 year ago
What happens if you ignore the “warning”?
asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 1 year ago
You see spez’s ban hammer coming at you.
GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
A social credit score, if you will. Government is gonna love purchasing this on the cheap. Hell, maybe they already have.
JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It has had a social credit score for a while now. Content from people with low social credit gets auto flagged to the mods.
GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
You’re not wrong, but having a specific score of upcoming problematic content feels like a new low.
RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 1 year ago
Still up to the site itself to decide what is “violating content”. This puts a chilling effect on upvoting and gets Reddit one step further from what it once was.
ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And two or three steps past worth having an actual account on.
Die4Ever@programming.dev 1 year ago
interesting idea actually, strengthening the crowd sourced filtering
but downvotes don’t delete posts, so you still need a real moderator
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Please read it again, this is far from crowd sourced filtering.
This is “your opinion is wrong, this is your first warning to get back in line”
Crowd sourced filtering means the crowd choses what is and isn’t bad content but this is fully transparent preparing for Gleichschaltung
Die4Ever@programming.dev 1 year ago
well I was speaking in theory, of course this stuff can be abused
but imagine if they actually only used it for illegal content, like the really bad stuff
Braindamagedeluxe@lemm.ee 1 year ago
thats crazy. This further bubblefication of social media is gonna be a real problem soon.