Because, to me, it make no sense whatsoever…
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In my experience, every “lifetime” digital service I’ve ever made the mistake of purchasing has been a scam.
Are "Lifetime" Cloud Storage Plans scams?
Submitted 6 days ago by IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Kelly@lemmy.world 6 days ago
There are on going cost with running the service so if new customers stopped signing up they would go broke when they run out of money. (i.e. like a ponzi scheme)
Unless they invest your seed capital and pay for your services from growth. This would work when times are good, but could fall apart during any significant financial crisis.
The current offer for the named service is asking for us$800 for 1TB, if they followed the 5% rule that would leave them with us$40 per year to provide the service.
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 6 days ago
You can easily buy 3 10TB HDDs with that money, plenty of redundancy, no need to have someone else do it.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
I mean, cloud is more of an offsite backup solution.
Of course, the hardware you control is better, but fires are quite common, one fire and poof, your data is gome, and most people aren’t rich and don’t have second homes to set up a server in, nor do they have a friend willing to let them set up a server in their house. So cloud it is… 🤷♂️
Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Is there anything that can be installed on a hdd that would create your own personal cloud device (that can be accessed over a network)?
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 6 days ago
It sure doesn’t make sense alright, but that’s only because you expect them to actually honour it.
potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 6 days ago
I would read their TOS.
Kelly@lemmy.world 6 days ago
It doesn’t look good
www.pcloud.com/terms_and_conditions.html
pCloud has a fourteen (14) calendar days money back guarantee, beginning on the day you have submitted your payment for the Paid services. During this period, you are eligible to request for a refund. If you issue an explicit written request for a refund within the fourteen (14) days referenced above, we will process the refund due to you in full within 30 calendar days, counting from the day you have confirmed your request.
We will usually refund any money received from you using the same method originally used by you to pay for your purchase.
In case you have purchased Paid services through a promotional campaign or provided discount, pCloud reserves the right to decline providing a refund.
I just used web archive to check the site on three random days in 2024 and it looks like they always have a promotion and could claim any purchases are ineligable for the money back guarantee.
Termination
We reserve the right not to provide the Site or Services to any user. We also reserve the right to terminate any user’s right to access the Site or Services at any time, in our discretion. If you breach any of these Terms, your permission to use the Site and Services and your account automatically terminate. If pCloud ceases operation, your account will be terminated and pCloud will no longer provide the Site or Services. If your account is terminated in accordance with this section, you will not receive any refund of any fees paid for the account.
And they can decide to stop your service at any time.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
As a wise internet nerd once said: “There no cloud, its just someone else’s computer”
So true in this context lol
Saltarello@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Wouldn’t say scam but potentially unsustainable. Some years ago I signed up for a brand new startup Nextcloud service which was priced far too low & went under very quickly. Switched to a hosted Nextcloud provider who had been around a long time (still around). They were really good but after a short time I decided to learn how to host it myself.
Hardware wise you don’t need much, I upgraded to a used Pi5 8GB with fanless heatsink case & added an m.2 SSD. Only 1 user on my instance but I often share folders with others, it’s robust & never once crashed.
If exposing to www you need to keep your network secure. There’s a learning curve but self hosting can be rewarding. Any if you’re lucky you might get to spend hours & hours problem solving when something breaks 😉😁
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Price wise, you probably can’t beat an off-site server running in someone else’s basement.
eatham@aussie.zone 6 days ago
Probably
jimmux@programming.dev 6 days ago
It doesn’t seem to make sense, but I gave pCloud a chance years ago, and I’ve been using the lifetime plan ever since. I feel like I got my money’s worth, so not too worried if I eventually have to migrate elsewhere.
viking@infosec.pub 6 days ago
pCloud, under business terms fairly towards the end:
This Agreement may be terminated by either party at any time, for any reason. This Agreement will remain in effect until Customer’s subscription to the Services expires or until the Agreement is terminated. In the event of termination by the Customer, the Customer will remain responsible for payment of all fees and charges applicable to the period during which the Agreement was in effect.
b3an@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I just dumped pcloud. Also a surprising increase in fake pcloud emails trying desperately for me to click them. My email provider flags them over real pcloud ones. Still. Someone is spamming the shit out of me for that. I’d say pcloud isn’t worth sticking with.
viking@infosec.pub 5 days ago
Yeah what I also saw in the terms was that they reserve the right to sell their company without informing users other than through an update in the terms & conditions, and based on play store reviews, they terminate lifetime accounts if they find that you upload copyright protected files, even if you don’t share them with anyone.
Indexing my stuff and comparing it against external databases is a big no no for me.
So far I’m quite happy with sync.com, been using them for well over a decade. Data is fully encrypted during upload, so no matter if the server is ever breached, they wouldn’t get anything useful out of it.
I also got my own nextcloud instance up and running, but it’s with a shared hosting provider where I don’t feel as secure.