Iraq War was preceded by the largest worldwide non-violent protests in history and the war happened anyway.

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And thats why they tell you its not the answer. Now to be clear, it isn’t always the answer, but we’ve been calling on deaf ears for as long as I can remember, and as I’ve heard from the Older Guard, its been twice as long as that at least.

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, and as I’m trying to make clear, being non-violent doesn’t make you not a target. The US government was busy trying to target the most non-violent group that exists in the US. Violence is so antithetical to their religion they cannot be drafted into the US military, due to freedom of religion. The real name of their religion isn’t Quakers it’s “The Religious Society of Friends.”

    The more non-violent you are, the more likely these freaks are willing to view you as easy to take down and remove from the conversation.

    It’s just like… the first Gay Pride was literally a riot.

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• Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was just recently informed of a podcast called “blowback” the other day on Lemmy and their first season actually goes into Iraq and the lead up to it. It’s a very good podcast for anyone interested in the topic of American intervention in other countries. Very well produced for the subject matter.

  Long story short there was nothing that was going to stop us from going after Iraq. “We” wanted that for a long time and it’s not just a simple “cuz oil” thing.

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• partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “largest worldwide non-violent protests in history”? I remember living through that time and don’t remember that. Do you have a source? I myself was opposed the second Iraq war because Saddam had agreed to let in any inspectors the west wanted but we went “too late, we’re coming in anyway” and I knew it was a scam invasion.

  We were also just a couple of years into Afghanistan and it made no sense to be starting a second war on a second front when there was no immanent danger. Again, it made to sense.

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  • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was a bit skeptical as well, but there’s at least one seemingly reputable academic researcher who says as much: en.wikipedia.org/…/15_February_2003_anti-war_prot… (first citation).
    So even if it wasn’t, one could easily be forgiven for the mistake.

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Start here: en.wikipedia.org/…/15_February_2003_anti-war_prot…

    Specific news articles about that day:

    web.archive.org/web/20040904214302/…/record.asp?r…

    From Guinness World Records:

    On February 15, 2003, anti-war rallies took place across the globe – the largest occurring in Rome, Italy, where a crowd of 3 million gathered to protest against the USA’s threat to invade Iraq. Police figures report that millions more demonstrated in nearly 600 cities worldwide: on the same day, 1.3 million rallied in Barcelona, Spain, 1 million participated in a peace march through the streets of London, UK, and 500,00 people in Melbourne and Sydney, Australia, joined the biggest marches since the Vietnam War peace protests.

    web.archive.org/web/20100326221254/…/art.php?id=6…

    The French political scientist Dominique Reynié has estimated that, between 3 January and 12 April 2003, some 36 million people took part in nearly 3,000 protests around the world against the Iraq war.

    web.archive.org/web/20190921125652/…/2765215.stm

    Between six and 10 million people are thought to have marched in up to 60 countries over the weekend - the largest demonstrations of their kind since the Vietnam War.

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