The lengths that the military surveillance state will go to in order to invade our invade our privacy. This has nothing to do with terrorism, fraud or child porn, this is 100% him not allowing back doors to his app.
Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
Submitted 2 months ago by sysop@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 months ago
doodledup@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This has nothing to do with privacy either. First of all Telegram is not a private messenger. Secondly, this is a about public forums and groups called Channels. Telegram has full access to this data and knowingly ignores child pornography and other criminal activity. If Facebook did such a thing for years you’d be screaming right now.
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
I haven’t seen CP on either platform. How are you sure there is CP in telegram? How do you know there isn’t on Facebook?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
So they’re saying this guy is a terrorist, drug trafficker, money launderer, pedo?
It sounds like a legitimate list of crimes with solid evidence. \s
essteeyou@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So, wading in here with a gut reaction and no nuance, he’s charged with all these crimes because the platform he runs has them being organized between its users?
Who do we arrest if a crime is organized via phone call on T-Mobile’s network, or via mail?
Is it a case of cooperation, where Telegram is completely refusing to help, or is it just a case of “encryption bad, privacy bad” from the French government?
AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 2 months ago
I guarantee you, T-Mobile does not hesitate to hand over any and all data they have to the government. And they don’t encrypt shit, as evidenced by their many many data breaches.
The postal service is from a different era, and has legal protections I wish online equivalents had. Logically they should. Realistically they probably never will.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 months ago
In Germany those leagacy protections have long been breached
funtrek@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
A service provider is not responsible for the content people publish on their service. But if they knowingly allow criminals to publish and refuse to cooperate with courts and police, they become responsible.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But the level of cooperation required means they have to break eee to remain in the clear. Doing that means they lose almost all reason to exist in the first place. This is a no-win scenario.
0x0@programming.dev 2 months ago
On the same disclaimer, I’m betting on the latter.
themarty27@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Allegedly the former. By “allegedly”, I mean that Telegram is definitely uncooperative in moderation of illegal content, the alleged part is that that is the motivation behind the arrest. I also read somewhere that he was accused of tapping into Macron’s manager’s communications, but I can’t find the article and I don’t know how reliable that statement is.
1984@lemmy.today 2 months ago
I don’t know anything about this but when USA calls someone a terrorist, it’s always about money or power in some form.
essteeyou@lemmy.world 2 months ago
In this case it was France, not the USA.