Intel breaks silence on 13th and 14th-gen Raptor Lake desktop CPU instability issues

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• olosta@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  "Gamers Nexus, on the other hand, thinks the issue is more deep rooted and originates from a foundry-level fault."

  • The GN piece makes it very clear that this claim is not definitely true but is a line of inquiry.
  • Intel statement does not definitely exclude this hypothesis, the flawed CPU might need the lower voltage to work around the flaw.
  • The obvious question this article does not address is what will be the performance hit for the patched parts?

  That’s a bit annoying to see GN so grossly misquoted when Steve spends half the run time of the video explaining that they are not sure of anything at this point.

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  • wjs018@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Intel confirmed on reddit that oxidation did impact some chips.

    More than one thing can be wrong at the same time, so everybody can be right!

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  • ZealousSealion@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Steve does go on, and on, and on, and on… Quite challenging, if you have a tight deadline.

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    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For most of their videos you can just play it in the background.

      But that said, why are you watching any youtube videos if you have a “tight deadline”?

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• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  "We’re going to undervolt them. You’re stuck with the damage done, and you won’t have luck overclocking or getting as much performance from our chips.

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  • dditty@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not only that, but I don’t think stability issues like this would’ve been known around or shortly after launch, so Intel (likely unknowingly) got to mislead consumers and reviewers into thinking that their 13th/14th HEDT processors were close to competitive with AMD’s, when they were anything but. It’s never been more apparent how stagnant Intel truly has become, and that’s already been a trope for years.

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• cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Nice one Intel. My next computer certainly will not contain an Intel CPU.

  I wish someone would start making desktop motherboards with socketed RISC-V and ARM CPUs.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why I chose AMD in 2019.

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  • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Socketed risc v wouldn’t be worth much right now but snapdragon I could see getting socketed at some point.

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  • Tarball@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ampere? www.ipi.wiki/…/ampere-altra-developer-platform

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That would be great for a server, but 1.7GHz is a bit slow for a desktop.

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  AMD stock should have gone through the roof on this news.

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  • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    AMD has gone down 13% this week. Intel went up today.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No clue why. AMD is killing it right now, and they’re just slaughtering Intel’s positions in the market for the next number of years.

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    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think insiders already knew about this problem. It would explain why the stock has been dropping over the past few months.

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    • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Everyone’s excited for Battle mage

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is actually good for Intel, if they think that they can actually fix the problem in microcode.

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    • sploosh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They can keep the problem from starting, but any processors that are already impacted need to be RMA’d

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• SeaJ@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Level1Tech looked a good amount into it and he’s not convinced microcode updates, which they have released many, will fix the issue.

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They won’t, since Intel has quietly admitted now that there is an oxidization issue too.

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