Why does desktop hardware become more and more complex and fragile?
I want my BunkerNet with 90s Amiga level machines with technology practical enough to be produced (with reasonable investment) at least in every 1mln city (with literate population and necessary raw resources available).
Yes, I’ve even started with something above that, running Windows 98SE, games and all.
But just … how necessary it really is? Just (that is, 1.5 hrs ago, ADHD) returned home from a bicycle ride in a park, it’s fun with a normal bicycle, it’s fun with a Soviet bicycle which is barely that, it’s fun with a foldable bicycle with switchable reductors, it’s fun with roller skates, and it’s fun on foot.
Can we treat computers the same? They are means to an end. NEW ROUNDED CORNERS AND ADS IN EVERY ORIFICE TO BE ALWAYS CONNECTED TO OUR NEW ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE is not that end.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Eh. LPCAMM seems more useful overall as a product. Faster DDR at this point in time has diminishing returns.
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out though, because there are a few different paths to solve this type of problem with DDR5. Personally, I’d love for much lower power, but a wider bus, which is where I thought things were heading.
Vinny_93@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Well we’ve seen CAS latency increase almost quicker than DDR speeds. CAMM should address this issue by shortening the distance from cpu to RAM, at least for laptops.
I’d say DIMM has pretty much stranded in DDR5.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
faster ram generally has dimishing returns on sustem use, however it does matter for gpu compute reasons on igpu (e. g gaming, and ML/AI would make use of the increased memory bandwith).
its not easily to simply just push a wider bus because memory bus size more or less affects design complexity, thus cost. its cheaper to push memory clocks than design a die with a wider bus.
Paragone@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Computational-Fluid-Dynamics simulations are RAM-limited, iirc.
I’m presuming many AI models are, too, since some of them require stupendous amounts of RAM, which no non-server machine would have.
“diminishing returns” is what Intel’s “beloved” Celeron garbage was pushing.
When I ran Memtest86+ ( or the other version, don’t remember ), & saw how insanely slow RAM was, compared with L2 or L3 cache, & then discovered how incredible the machine-upgrade going from SATA to NVMe was…
Get the fastest NVMe & RAM you can: it puts your CPU where it should have been, all along, and that difference between a “normal” build vs an effective build is the misframing the whole industry has been establishing, for decades.
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PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Well usually yes, but if cpu manufacturers decide to really lean into cramming lots of cores into cpu-s (Like Intel’s big.LITTLE cpus), then we probably will need faster RAM-s, since more core == more memory bandwith demand, and currently this issue has been always resolved by faster RAMs. (Or we could just increase the memory channels)
itsmect@monero.town 4 months ago
LPCAMM may have better specs, but DIMM requires a smaller area on the PCB and can make better use of the vertical space.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 months ago
These are unrelated products. Not sure what you mean.