Why Are Rap*** & Ped** Protected In Jail?

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• rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because next time someone might decided that whatever you did wrong is worthy of being served some mob justice. You might not like it, but everyone being treated the same is the basic principle thanks to which our society can work at all. Once you remove it, shit goes wild.

  Remember, once you pass something like mob justice for rapists into law, it’s not long until someone who really hates something you like is gonna abuse it.

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    shut up

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If they did the crime they should deal with the consequences of their sick actions

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    • Gamoc@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Uhuh and when an innocent person is murdered by a group of vigilante morons, because murderous groups never, ever stop to check, every single one of those vigilante morons can go to prison so they can do the crime for their time. Law and order exists for a reason, imprisonment is the consequence of their actions. If they’re assaulted, that’s assault, if they’re murdered, that’s murder.

      Besides. Why the fuck would you want to lower yourself like that? Why go to prison for a rapist, is it worth it? If you think so, that just means the rapist will take your life as well.

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• RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Idk, why don’t we just throw murderers out into the street and let them get lynched by an angry mob?

  Cos justice means that people who have done horrible things get treated better by society than they treated their victims. Because the goal of justice is rehabilitation not retribution.

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They deserve whatever comes to them, you think it’s right for someone to violate another just for a few minutes of satisfactions and traumatize them? Some people have to go to therapy for years some people killed themselves. Some people don’t heal from it.

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    • Chozo@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      you think it’s right for someone to violate another just for a few minutes of satisfactions and traumatize them?

      You seem to think that.

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• DarkThoughts@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  People please check OPs profile. It's clearly a rage baiting troll.

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re talking about the post I made about the guy I was talking to and if I could fix or relationship? That’s what a troll does?

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    no it isn’t I’m genuinely asking

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• skeletorfw@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So here’s the rationale that is generally used: If you are in a country that utilises the death sentence then the only system that can decide that is the legal system. Vigilante justice, even when morally justified in the immediate, is not a rigorous or systematically moral justice system. Ergo if anyone is in danger of being killed then they must be protected, even if they are a terrible person, as they have not been sentenced to death (or even if they have, that sentence is not to be meted down by just some other random person).

  If you are in a country with no death penalty, you as a society believe that no-one should ever be killed as retribution or as an example to others, thus the argument for protecting people from serious harm is obvious.

  These same basic arguments apply for corporeal punishment.

  Those who are believed to have committed horrific crimes such as those you mentioned will be in extreme danger because their crimes are fairly universally considered reprehensible (because they… You know… Are). The danger is that there is no perfect justice system. Miscarriages of justice do occur and whilst you may believe that actual perpetrators should be killed or maimed in prison, the risk is that innocent people may be subjected to a horrific and irreversible punishment for no crime at all. That is not acceptable to most people within most justice systems.

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And this is why others will follow and it’ll continue, they know they’ll be protected and love such a sweet life in there

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    • Glide@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The insanity and ignorance necessary to call prison “a sweet life”.

      What’s the goal here? There’s no way you’re this willfully ignorant, right?

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    • skeletorfw@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What? How in the world is that your conclusion from my point? Are you seriously advocating for mob vigilante justice systems? I agree in essence that these crimes are abhorrent and must stop, but what are you proposing as a functional justice system?

      The question really is what do they need to be protected from? If they must be heavily protected from physical harm that certainly implies that there is a threat of grave physical harm to them on a regular basis. That doesn’t sound like a sweet life to me.

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• Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Maybe stop looking at news ? We all know they only put forward the negative because that’s what catches your eye. Nobody cares about little Maggie who performed moderately great at her recital, whose parents are very proud. I don’t think we were made to sustain this level of concentrated human horror at our fingertips, all day, everyday.

  Do yourself a favor: Go out, touch grass.

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Go touch grass? Can’t do that anymore. Why? My neighbor two houses down likes to follow me home

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    • Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Look, obviously you’re having a hard time in life and you think your view of men is justified, but it only serves to antagonize the majority of men that are not predators. Nobody likes to be slandered out of the blue and for no reason. And if you were slandered like that you’d dislike it too, and you’d be right.

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    • Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      K.

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• aodhsishaj@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh. I guess the fascists have made it to Lemmy in enough numbers to where they feel comfortable posting ignorant shit like this now.

  OP do you believe the government has the right to murder you regardless of guilt and with no due process? Because you’re saying you fully support that with this post.

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This wasn’t an ignorant question, they are protected and I want to know why

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    • aodhsishaj@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re being willfully ignorant of due process and I want to know why.

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not a pedo nor am I raping anyone so no, If I was then I deserve it. I take accountability for my actions

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    • aodhsishaj@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s your stance on civil liberties and DEI?

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• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  OP made their account today. This is a troll.

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now I’m being called a troll, great

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• livus@kbin.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So, you're basically asking why we have a judicial system.

  If you look at world history pretty much every human society comes up with a code of what is okay and what isn't, and once they get to a certain size they start standardizing punishments as well.

  The reason for this is because it works a lot better than ad hoc justice which is too reliant on variables like who was there that day.

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  • Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The reason for this is because it works a lot better than ad hoc justice which is too reliant on variables like who was there that day.

    Not to mention feelings. Which is inherently too biased.

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• tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I guess there are some stupid questions …

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No

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• rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Just a few days ago a middle aged women was walking […]”

  Wtf? Why didn’t you do something? You should have stepped in or called police!

  “protected”

  What do you mean by protected? They’re locked away?! What would be your solution? Vigilantism and vendettas?

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It was in a city about an away from me. I saw a post when I was scrolling. It was recorded on surveillance camera. No one seemed to be out at that time. They are locked away but that just doesn’t do it for me, they are too peaceful, they need what they did, dive back to them

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    • rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So if it’s on camera, I hope they go to jail for that.

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• blargerer@kbin.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I suspect you are just a troll as others have said, but in the case you aren't;

  It's been shown for all crimes, that degree of punishment doesn't really have much effect on deterrence. People tend to not know what the punishment for any given crime is, they tend to underestimate how likely they are to get caught, and when worrying about consequences they tend to worry about consequences they understand, like how their family or friends will react, not what living in prison for years will be like.

  The justice system everywhere is fallible, protections for those in jail aren't only for the absolutely guilty, they are for the innocent who are incorrectly incarcerated.

  Killing someone wont undue what they've done. As horrific as it is, the trauma inflicted on someone can't be undone. You are only putting more suffering into the world when you punish someone without tangible goals.

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• deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I really hope you all don’t have children especially girls, they’ll be in serious danger

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• deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I can’t believe your mothers actually pushed you type of men out to society. Lord take us all

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• deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You are all showing me you guys could be potential rap*** or ped**

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• deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You guys are downvoting my post, is the shoe fitting?

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  • jjagaimo@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You made a stupid post asking “why don’t we do this: if people do X then we should do Y.” People don’t support Y and you then say they must then support people who do X? You are putting words in people’s mouths an they don’t like that. You are also advocating for harm against people who may be innocent or are also human.

    Ever heard of Emmett Till? He a black boy who was accused of whistling at a white woman in 1955 and was lynched, tortured and killed for it. He didn’t do it, and the woman much later admitted she lied about it. Yet nothing has happened to her and his murderers were acquitted

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    • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No I made a a post asking why they are protected, people that do those crimes aren’t human.

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    • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s different, they did that because they were just racist

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  • deadgirlwalking@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The men are mad in here

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