Submitted 6 months ago by Brkdncr@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
Next year Windows 10 goes End of Life. Microsoft will undoubtedly push windows 11 hard, but a lot of machines won’t support it leading to a few economic points of interest:
The demand for new machines will be high, driving up cost.
The supply of unsupported machines will be high, driving down the used market.
Are you all ready?
I used to take pride in that I could fully set up, configure, secure, minimally provision (with software) and neuter the more egregious aspects of Vista/7/8/8.1 within a 16hr time frame.
With Windows 10 this increased to 20 hours, and with my own Windows 11 install I am currently clocking in at 24hrs - three whole work days. The last day of which is spent in the Registry and doing multiple reboots to ensure the new UI fuckery has been appropriately castrated.
I have a handful of programs, both current and vintage, that are either inadequately or completely unable to be serviced by Wine. With that said, I am now down to only two rigs on Windows, the remainder being various flavours of Linux or BSD.
I’ve been ready, ditched that malware over a year ago and it has been great.
Debian + KDE Plasma is all you need. Saying goodbye to Microsoft and their predatory, horrible software is an absolute win.
Cheap good win10 systems, yum. I m ready
Mine’s been “dead” for near 5 years now and its still chuggin along as an arcade/jukebox/dvdplayer
I should probably look into why my absolute beast of a machine apparently isn’t compatible with W11. I’ve just been ignoring it forever.
You likely just need to enable TPM through the BIOS (each manufacturer calls it something different).
I’m in a similar boat, but am going to use W10 EOL to probably jump ship to Linux - if not at the very least switch to Windows 10 LTSC.
Thanks, seems easy enough! Unfortunately my work revolves around the Adobe suite so it’s W11 fun times for me yay
They’re requiring an unnecessary new piece of hardware in order to force more computer sales. Exactly why Microsoft is interested in forcing more hardware sales, I’m not entirely sure. The hardware in question is some kind of encryption thingy, but it doesn’t offer any real benefits beyond just changing where the fundamental layer of trust is for the encryption in your computer.
My job in the a non technical field relies on a laptop to run a label printer, the laptop is ancient and I already had to install revOS on it so that printing labels isn’t horribly bogged down waiting on the laptop to load the simple printer program. Is there anyway that proton would be able to run that program? Probably not because of all lack of driver support, if anyone has any ideas I’m all ear, even just pointing me in a direction would be appreciated!
Proton is really a WINE fork intended specifically for Steam games. Most of the changes in it target games.
WINE might be able to run the program, would be what I’d try.
Or you might be able to run a Windows VM on newer hardware and run it on that, would be my fallback attempt. Less seamless than just having a Windows program open a window alongside Linux ones, but sometimes that can work if WINE can’t do it.
I’d see if Linux can recognize the label printer, if this is really ancient hardware. That’d be my first step. Then look into having apps print to said printer.
Shit lol, I meant wine, I personally use proton for steam so it’s stuck in my brain first.
This sounds interesting. What the hell is RevOS? What kind of label maker is that? Does it have a name?
Yeah it’s brand name is kiaro it just uses a usb to connect to the laptop, and revOS is basically just a custom windows install that has as much of the bloatware removed as possible as well as some UI mods to make it feel more like old school windows a little bit. The laptop is from like pre 2010 so Microsoft is slowly killing it’s performance with all the bloatware crap. Kinda ridiculous that they don’t take older hardware performance very seriously on windows the thing is just trying to run simple GUI printer software and it was struggling hard before revOS.
I already use Windows Update Blocker to disable automatic updates of Windows. So Windows 10 going EOL won’t change much for me.
Why would you be blocking updates? Win10 is basically getting security fixes only at this point.
It is also getting increasingly annoying nagging screens for Windows 11
Not sure if I will live that long
Got a well specced 4th Gen i7 that does everything I need so unless it blows up, I won’t be upgrading. Started working on the plan this week. Been using Mint on my secondary (non essential laptop) but never had the stones to take the plunge on my main rig.
Watching MS stepping into the enshittification trend and AI with Win11 means this is the last straw, particularly now I don’t need to rely on keeping up with windows for work. Currently bashing on Linux Mint DE in a VM to test what I need and have working to be happy:
Outlook/Office - Thunderbird is good but it’s been a while since I’ve used Libre Office but didn’t have much luck with it in the past - trashing the formatting when bouncing between LO & MSO. Hoping the more recent versions are better else office web will have to do for those documents that don’t play nice.
Steam - make sure I can get it going, several key games. This is the least of my worries after seeing what others have said. NVIDIA graphics may be a bit more painful.
RDP - I still have another headless win10 media box. VNC as backup. This box will be the next on the chopping block if all goes well.
Backup - this is the big one. Currently use Backblaze for unlimited backup and love the set & forget nature. No native Linux client so would require moving to their B2 platform with a third party interface - do-able, just need to get off my butt to work it out :p
File structure - always struggled with this in my playing with Linux, need to become more comfortable with where files live and general directory structure.
Will slowly pick those off over the next couple of weeks and then I should be good to go.
My whole Company is still on 10, seems like we need to somewhat scramble to move over, right?
Microsoft will extend support once the deadline is near, for enterprise customers.
That’s what they’re counting on.
ws2k12r2 is still getting updates, what w10? ;)
MakePorkGreatAgain@lemmy.basedcount.com 6 months ago
use win11 at work, dont like it much. when win10 hits EoL I’ll dither for a year or so before switching over to mint or some other distro full time