Comment on Existing California solar customers may get blindsided with net metering cuts

• MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That is nuts. We need to take back power from these companies.

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  • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure this will break the law of thermodynamics.

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    • unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      One of the few laws that we haven’t sorted out a way to break!

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• Humanius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Where in Europe is this? Europe isn’t a monolith, after all.
  Here in the Netherlands we (currently) still have the “salderingsregeling” which is used to reimburse people for the solar they feed back into the grid, though that will eventually go away.

  Paying people for solar on the roof is a bit tricky in general, and probably not sustainable long term:

  • The money to maintain the grid has to come from somewhere, and if a lot of people have a bill of zero euros or a negative amount, that system kind of breaks down.
  • The grid has a maximum capacity (especially in residential neighbourhoods) so you cannot pump an infinite amount of power back into the grid. If many houses in a neighbourhood have solar the grid simply cannot cope.

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• nivenkos@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because they have to give that energy away in order to keep the grid stable.

  Hopefully better battery storage will make this better in the future.

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• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What happens if you just…don’t pay the bill?

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  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Then you get disconnected.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought that was the point of paying so much for solar? To be OFF the grid?

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      • SacralPlexus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No going off-grid is a substantially larger investment than most people can afford. To be off grid you have to be able to make enough electricity even on cloudy, short winter days. That means your system must be massively oversized for your needs during most of the year. You also need adequate batteries to store energy for overnight.

        Instead people get enough solar to offset some or all of the electricity they use - but on average over time. So they produce a ton during the day and then draw from grid at night.

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      • MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That is no the point. Solar provides most of your power and if you need additional power you can easily get additional power from the grid. That power can come from other people that have solar connected to the grid or other sources. It allows people to not have to spend huge amounts of money on batteries while providing power for themselves and others.

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• CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Are they providing support for the things?

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  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They provide no support for the solar. If I have problems I have to go to my solar installer.

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    • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well that’s fucked.

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