Comment on European iPhones are more fun now

stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s no Firefox engine for iOS and Mozilla says it doesn’t make financial sense to port it.

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  • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did they say that? Cause it looks like there is at least some work being done on this:

    bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1882872

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    • lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it’s a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.

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  • vii@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What exactly is there to port anyway?

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    • sugartits@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The rendering engine.

      Currently Firefox on iOS is “just” a skin around the iOS provided renderer.

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      • elucubra@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t give a mousefuck about the rendering engine. I want extensions

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gecko, the browser engine?

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      • sugartits@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        GeckoView more specifically in this case. But yes.

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      • vii@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But they do have mobile arm builds already don’t they? Of course iOS is very different from Android but it’s not like they’d have to do complete port.

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• Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  By the time the masses move it will be an enshittified fork of chrome.

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  • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Edge?

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Opera?

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• Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wasn’t Firefox starting to implement some bullshit too?

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Always has been.

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  • mke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What do you believe Mozilla was implementing?

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    • sushibowl@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      privacy preserving attribution

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      • mke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thanks. I know you’re not OP, but I’ll take this opportunity to answer anyway.

        privacy preserving attribution

        …is not as bad as many people think.

        The best argument that I believe still has merit is this:

        All websites on the internet—including ad networks!—are guests on our computers, and the content they provide are merely suggestions for a user agent to interpret and show us how it chooses.

        If you agree with this—and I kinda do—then yeah, PPA is bad. You’re probably a staunch user of uBlock (or uMatrix) and don’t want your browser engaging in any privacy-preserving attribution shenanigans.

        But here’s the kicker: if you use uBlock, PPA won’t do anything. It can’t, even when left enabled. The only people really affected by PPA are people not using adblocking, i.e. the people being tracked all over the web, who would likely be helped by PPA.

        As I said in a previous comment: if PPA works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing it on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.

        And for all that Mozilla is implementing “bullshit,” they’re also the only ones keeping uBlock functional by maintaining manifest V2. They spend time and resources protecting the very thing that trumps their supposed bullshit. That doesn’t feel like enshittification to me, but a group trying to do its best, even while stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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• tibi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s really not, Safari does a pretty good job keeping up with standards and whatnot.

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