Better them than accountants and lawyers.
Comment on Intel was once a Silicon Valley leader. How did it fall so far?
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The marketing and advertising and sales teams took over management from the engineering team, and decided to cut all the corners. It’s a classic tale at this point, same thing happened to Boeing and Apple and Google and etc. It’s why everything sucks nowadays.
Willy@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I was including the accountants and lawyers in that list, just to be clear. They’re all bad if they don’t have any idea how the technical side of their business functions.
Willy@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I think they are different levels of bad. To paraphrase the old adage, If sales takes over your company, be wary. If accounts take over, start looking for a new job. If lawyers take over quit.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I mean, and I’m thinking more in the context of retirement investments here, the moment any of those things happen I’m inclined to jump ship. I am thoroughly unaware of any time such a move has turned out well in the long run. Same sentiment for stock buybacks, though that one because if that’s the best thing the company can think of to spend money on they are completely out of good ideas.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If you’re talking about the lastest gen desktop CPUs, they just clocked them too high.
This has been an ongoing problem… and yes, probably has to do with management and marketing decisions tbh, so they can be 2% ahead of AMD in some stupid benchmark. AMD is guilty of this too, and you can see what “sanely” clocked chips look like with their X3D series.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
That is absolutely not the only issue. They had oxidation issues in two successive generations of consumer CPUs, likely knew about it, and sold them anyways. They’re trying to get out of reimbursing, replacing, or compensating anyone for the fucked cores, and as a direct result, a massive class-action suit is starting to roll.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They’re trying to get out of reimbursing, replacing, or compensating anyone for the fucked cores, and as a direct result, a massive class-action suit is starting to roll.
Well, the big boys have gotten out of their responsibility for all such things in many-many seemingly unconnected areas in the last ~15 years. What do you want, it had to reach Intel.
Still the fact that this enshittification has accelerated to the extent that people notice it is just amazing. Civilization cracking all over on our eyes.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 months ago
My point was that had proper engineers been in charge instead, they would have noticed and listened to the people on the ground that I am certain knew about the problem, and it would have been fixed before any consumers got their hands on the product.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There might be things that Apple is stagnating on, but silicon and ARM CPU transitions definitely ain’t one of those things. The rest of the industry is scrambling to catch up with them asap.
db2@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Just ask Apple, they’ll tell you so.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Don’t trust any silicon manufacturer’s marketing department. Let the processing and battery life benchmarks and real world tests do the talking.
saltesc@lemmy.world 3 months ago
But then Apple would have to drop it’s prices by 40% so people would keep buying.
mephiska@lemmy.world 3 months ago
These new snapdragon based windows laptops have to be a serious wake up call for intel. General personal computing is quickly moving away from x86 and the latest “efficiency” core processors from intel can’t compete.
uis@lemm.ee 3 months ago
And? Linux was on ARM since about beginning.
JGrffn@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
What relevance does Linux have in this specific context? Does Linux have a marketing team? Does Linux compete on a hardware level with Apple? Is there a Linux corp we haven’t heard about that’s working with some chip manufacturer we also haven’t heard about in order to create ARM processors that can compete with Apple silicon? No? Maybe don’t shoehorn Linux into everything regardless of relevance, especially not in such a lane way.
uis@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Because compared to other OSes Apple just catches up.
No marketing team = no enshittification by marketing
So you agree that transitioning to ARM isn’t imlressive. Now it’s time to show you that making processors isn’t something only oh-so-great Yoppl can do. Linux Foundation has its own chip designing subsidiary - CHIPS Alliance. They designed stuff like vector coprocessor, RISC-V core(and older VeeR cores), maintains Chisel HDL and many smaller projects. And I only named what only Linux Foundation does, community and other organizations(including chinese T-head) do even more.