Comment on AI Music Generator Suno Admits It Was Trained on ‘Essentially All Music Files on the Internet’

• mrfriki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But not making business out of them.

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  • credo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If you get an idea from a song, you are 1000% free to turn that into new art. This is the fair use argument.

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I agree with the logic, but I don’t think it should apply to LLMs—a humans-only law, if you will.

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      • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I think the key is that an LLM can’t have ideas. Its creative endeavors aren’t creative. Art is about the craft and the message and an LLM lacks that context. Like. The best an LLM can do is produce the kinds of music Drake does that is meant to pacify people into continuous consumption

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  • Willy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can make a business as soon as you’re done listening to them all.

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• PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  One has to pay a very high cost to do this. These AI companies did not pay. Why do AI companies get a pass on copyrighted material that the rest of us are getting sued, imprisoned, and fined for accessing?

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  • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Lot of people flying in this thread to down vote people saying that these media companies live by a different set of rules than the rest of us without understanding that this AI model is basically a huge automated record scratching DJ that can only regurgitate things its heard before reassembled and presented as new. If any of us tried to do this same thing they’d sue our pants off for piracy and plagiarism. But when they do it it’s fine.

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      plagiarism isn’t a tort.

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  • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Clause

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• Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But I’m not allowed to remix them. That’s the point that’s being made

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  • Willy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It can’t remix either so that’s not an issue

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s the only thing it does.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        no, it doesn’t.

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      • pyr0ball@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        woosh

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