I think you’re allowed to listen to every song on the open internet too.
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tehWrapper@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Great AI gets more rights than us too!
Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
mrfriki@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But not making business out of them.
credo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If you get an idea from a song, you are 1000% free to turn that into new art. This is the fair use argument.
Telorand@reddthat.com 1 month ago
I agree with the logic, but I don’t think it should apply to LLMs—a humans-only law, if you will.
Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
You can make a business as soon as you’re done listening to them all.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
One has to pay a very high cost to do this. These AI companies did not pay. Why do AI companies get a pass on copyrighted material that the rest of us are getting sued, imprisoned, and fined for accessing?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Lot of people flying in this thread to down vote people saying that these media companies live by a different set of rules than the rest of us without understanding that this AI model is basically a huge automated record scratching DJ that can only regurgitate things its heard before reassembled and presented as new. If any of us tried to do this same thing they’d sue our pants off for piracy and plagiarism. But when they do it it’s fine.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
plagiarism isn’t a tort.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
But I’m not allowed to remix them. That’s the point that’s being made
drmoose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You’re free to learn from any piece of music too. Whether AI is actually learning is still debatable but you have the same rights right now.
I’m still on the edge tbh I feel like it is learning and it is transformative but it’s just too powerful for our current copyright framework.
Either way, that’ll be such a headache for the transformative work clause of copyright for years to come. Also policing training would be completely unenforcable so any decision here would be rather moot either way.
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 month ago
That’s where laws would come in. Obviously it would have civil law, not criminal law, but making sure it would be enforceable would have to be part of such laws. For example, forcing model makers to disclose their training dataset in one way or another.
drmoose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But you can already train models at home also you can just extend existing models with new training data. Will that be regulated too? How?
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They‘re literally already about to heavily regulate hobby AI to ensure giant corporations that hoard all our information get to make even more mountains of money with it. The idea that anyone gets to use any media fir machine learning is already a relict of the past and in fact not remotely comparable to learning things for yourself. Especially not in the legal sense. Did you really naively believe AI will democratize anything for even a second?
jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
We are free to learn, but learning is not free.
Freedom vs cost. One cannot pickup a skill without time, effort and more importantly access to guidance and a vast library of content. Same applies to man or machine. The difference is how corporations have essentially reinvented piracy to facilitate their selfish ends after decades of dictating what’s right with DMCA, DRM and what not.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 month ago
But…it’s already been enforced, several times.