The line between anti-zioninist and anti-semitist has definitely been blurred to the point that assuming jew hatred is going to be the safest bet even if not correct in literally every case.
Comment on Meta to pull posts targeting 'Zionists' for harm
Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I mean yeah Zionist is generally used as a stand in for Jew
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Absolutely correct.
Maeve@kbin.earth 5 months ago
You know what makes people antisemitic? Genocidal, land-grabbing fascists.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Sure sure. Let’s blame all the jews for that. I’m sure white supermacists, islamaphobists and nazies all have equally good justifications for their hatred.
Speaking of genocidal, land-grabbing fascists, do you know what “from river to the sea” means?
oakey66@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Shut up. No it’s not.
Fitik@fedia.io 5 months ago
Maybe not always, but it usually is, including by Neo-Nazis and antisemites in general
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government_conspiracy_theory
Slur "Zio" for example was coined by the Neo-Nazi David Duke to refer to Jews
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2017-07-18/ty-article/.premium/how-chicagos-dyke-march-adopted-an-anti-semitic-slur-dear-to-far-righists/0000017f-e308-d804-ad7f-f3facfd10000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zio_(pejorative)
jeffw@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I love how people downvote instead of reading.
This just in: you can critisize Israel and zionism and still accept that other people have misused the word “zionism” to hide their antisemitism
Fitik@fedia.io 5 months ago
It's common for all kinds of bigots to use dog-whistles to avoid being banned
For example this post that got 30k likes says that "Zionists" killed Jesus
https://x.com/DrLoupis/status/1785180262181089415?t=50rtTnpLEu0FX3-HEXDWrA&s=19
I think you can understand in what meaning it's often used
small44@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Zionizm comes from Zion and not zio. Neo nazis didn’t invent the word
Fitik@fedia.io 5 months ago
@small44 I never said they did? Just like Neo-Nazis haven't invented the number 1488
Do you know the definition of the "dog-whistle"?
@lemmee_in @Cleverdawny @oakey66
Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Yes, it is
Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 months ago
No it’s not. I’d take a good look at who you associate with if that’s it’s common meaning for you.
jj4211@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s not a matter of whether it’s a common meaning of their associates. The problem is that it’s a common meaning used by anti semitic groups.
Of course the problem cuts both ways, hateful anti semitic folks hiding behind criticism of Zionists, and Neyanyahu supporters dismissing any and all criticism as broadly anti semitic.
Maeve@kbin.earth 5 months ago
They're just trying to make it illegal to point out genocidal fascists.