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ImGonnaTryScience@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

That’s not the point of equity. The point is to compensate for disadvantages people couldn’t prevent and can’t fix on their own. Stairs are equal. They work the same way for everyone. But someone in a wheelchair can’t climb stairs.

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ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
In practice that’s equity programs work by hurtingsomeone. Some California schools cut advanced math classes because they weren’t diverse enough, or it was contributing to an educational gap, or some bullshit. Equity requires adding burden to someone, it may be in an attempt at fairness, but that doesn’t make it right.

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- DessertStorms@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  In practice that’s equity programs work by hurtingsomeone
  
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  - duffman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Equality people, “Let’s fund these people who are objectively poor, they are disadvantaged and need it.”.
    
    Equity people, “let’s fund people part of this group I can clearly identify by looking at them. They are likely to be disadvantaged.”
    
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- ssboomman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Lmaooo the only people who use that California talking point are people who have never been inside of a school in California. They aren’t cutting math classes they are offering alternatives to high level math courses like calculus, stats, and data science. Explain to me how that’s burdening anyone??
  
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Reliant1087@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
But you can reframe it. People don’t have equal mobility but everyone has an equal right to access a place, so you have stairs and ramps. You can’t make everything a ramp or stair to create equality.

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duffman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
That’s not how equity works in practice. It doesn’t examine anyone’s actual capabilities or disadvantages. They bucket large groups of people into categories they deem worthy to receive resources, despite their actual need. Every person has their individual story, challenges, and priveleges yet equity assumes otherwise, that you deserve compensation based on the group you were assigned to, not what you actually need.

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- ssboomman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  That’s just not true. That’s how a person would feel if equity didn’t specifically help them.
  
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- oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It may work like that in practice in fields where it is extremely difficult to design solutions that are adapted to each person. Imagine you have to tailor laws and their application specifically to many millions of individuals, how do you do that without creating more manageable categories?
  
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