Comment on Improve very slow library scans on Jellyfin 10.11 / 12 on spinning media

• fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Inside the network you do, but not for remote access outside the network.

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  • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Outside the network you still have to open your server to allow plex cloud to access it and potentially tunnel your traffic through plex.tv if a direct connection doesn’t work. This happens automatically but it does happen

    With Jellyfin you just have to supply your own relay, like Tailscale or wireguard, which does require more setup but is completely free, means that you can stop your media traffic from being funneled through services that harvest your data (which plex absolutely does), and doesn’t go to shit if plex.tv goes down

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    • chisel@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can do the exact same thing with Plex, you just don’t need to since automatic remote streaming is built in. In fact, the article’s solution is literally Tailscale.

      You can also bypass plex authentication on any ip range you choose, so if you add your local network and plex’s auth service goes down, it’s no big deal.

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      • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah obviously, you can also use Tailscale to tunnel to whatever service you want (including just to the server itself). But if you’re bothering to override remote plex access with all this I don’t know why you wouldn’t just pick the option that doesn’t harvest your data and increasingly treat its customers as hostile

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    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This happens automatically but it does happen

      And that’s the key, it happens automatically and it just works. With jellyfin you have to expose the web server to the internet, or point an app to something else exposed on the internet. With plex you don’t. If you don’t want to (or can’t) a direct connection from your server to their servers, then their servers to your device is established. No VPNs, no reverse proxies, no port forwarding, nothing exposed to the rest of the internet.

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      • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They won’t do that because it’s expensive and free software generally doesn’t have the budget to do this

        I don’t know why you think the “just works” is any different from tunneling with a service. Your server is still opened to the internet through upnp with direct connections and through a tunnel to plex.tv when a direct connection is not possible. In fact plex is inherently less secure because their infra is both the encryption endpoint (as opposed to your client with Jellyfin and Tailscale or whatever) and their infra has been vulnerable in the past (like the massive breach in 2022).

        Jellyfin with something like nginx and a vpn is open to the internet, yes, but a service that tunnels (like wireguard, Tailscale) bypasses this issue and it’s up to you to set it up as to your level of comfort

        Plex is just easier but as with all things tech (especially those infected with VC dollars) “ease” translates to less secure and far more likely to exploit your data

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      • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It is literally a cloudflare tunnel/ tailscale type thing but contained in the app. The only real difference is that it is bundled in the app, so less setup and in exchange, Plex itself is free to harvest all of your data.

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      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well except during the Plex outage today.

        And last week.

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  • abcdqfr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Let’scrypt and port forward. Sprinkle on some free ddns with a sync script/job to keep ddns pointing to your real public IP. Can even roll in some headscale if you’re feeling adventurous

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    • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Feeling adventurous is exactly what you need if you decide to expose Jellyfin to the Internet (a reverse proxy adds nothing to security)

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      • blue_morpho@lemmy.world@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Jellyfin doesn’t open up your network unless you specifically allow remote access exactly like Plex. The only difference is Jellyfin doesn’t have the encrypted tunnel built in- you need to know it needs it and add it yourself.

        Plex has had bugs that allowed remote access into your home’s Plex server. nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2025-34158

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