Comment on iPhone owners say the latest iOS update is resurfacing deleted nudes
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I appreciate this thread’s nuanced discussion of how file deletion works from a technical standpoint depending on storage medium. But as a user, when I delete something, it should go away forever. I don’t care how.
If every time an OS had to delete something it had to fill the space with zeros or garbage data multiple times just to make extra sure it's gone, we'd all be trashing our flash chips very fast, and performance would be heavily degraded. There really isn't a way around this.
The solution to keep private files private is to put them into an encrypted container of some sort where you control the keys.
Step away from hardware constraints for a moment, and consider the OS:
If the OS says a file is deleted, under no circumstances should the OS be able to recover it. And yet, it apparently was. Thus, the concerns about data safety in an environment where the OS is unreliable.
Well, the storage device should handle that then. And modern NVMEs do.
Deletion commands are unfortunately not very reliable on many SSDs
The OS should never let that happen. It always should abstract the partition into a filesystem.
It’s to prevent you from accidentally deleting a photo you would never want to delete. If you want to make sure it’s deleted, you just go into the Photos app and delete it from the Recently Deleted folder. I prefer this approach, as I have accidentally deleted a photo that I did not mean to, and luckily it was still there. Use cases are different though, so.
That still doesn’t fully erase the data though. It just tells the computer that that space on the drive is available to be overwritten, but the 1s and 0s are still recoverable
Right, right. I understand that. I was just explaining why the option is good for people like me. I don’t take nudes, and I don’t receive nudes, so I don’t mind if the data is still there or not. I’m just glad the photo of me and my friend was still there when I noticed it was missing from my album after a recent meme deletion spree. lol
Imo there should be options for standard deletion and total deletion. Standard is faster, puts less wear on the drive, and keeps the files potentially recoverable, whole total would make it totally unrecoverable at the expense of taking slightly longer and putting a bit more wear on the drive
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
grabs your phone, throws it on the ground and blasts it with a shotgun
There you go! =)
piracysails@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Cloud’s deleted folder enters the chat.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Well… if you really want to delete them…
takes blasted phone, insert remnants into small iron cup, places in inductive furnace
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Hey at least I know it gets the job done
tal@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Hmm. I don’t know. Like, the actual surface involved in the storage is a lot smaller than the actual phone, and I imagine that you may-or-not destroy it with a given pellet.
I remember '80s movies where a lot of people weren’t all that personally-familiar computers where someone “destroying a computer” consisted of shooting its screen, which might be not that far off what would be happening. here. In fact, I bet that that probably has a TV Tropes entry.
googles
Well, they have a guy punching it, same kind of idea.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/…/ComputerEqualsMonitor
borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I’ve started seeing people, who really should know better, referring to the PC tower as the CPU. As in, “I bought a bracket that mounts to my variable height desk which can hold my CPU up off the floor and let it move with my desk”.
Bro I’m looking at a picture of a custom water cooled PC here, you should know the fucking difference between a CPU and a computer case.